Welcome Back After Summer Break

Speaker 1 0:03

good evening , ladies and gentlemen . Thank you so much for tuning into the wbm podcast . This is one of your hosts . It's your boy , mark hey , it's your boy x fair welcome back everybody and there's your boy oski in the mix , guys , do we have one hell of a show for you this week sir , we're talking a little bit about the premier league a little bit of football we're , yeah , man we're also going to talk a little bit of that .

Speaker 1 0:28

Anime's been good so far this year , so we're going to talk about that , how it feeds them .

Speaker 2 0:31

Actually he's the only one I've watched so far .

Speaker 3 0:33

Oh yeah , oh , I can talk about my trip there you go , there you go .

Speaker 1 0:39

I can talk about and all the Pokemon out there .

Speaker 3 0:41

All right , ladies and gentlemen are you guys ready for this one ?

Speaker 1 0:43

Let's do it .

Speaker 3 0:59

Well , ladies and gents , we're back in the studio , we're back in the lab and , as you can tell , it's been so long that we forgot how things work in the lab .

Speaker 1 1:07

Absolutely . What are switches ? You know what I'm saying . What does butts in here ?

Speaker 3 1:10

It's just been that long .

Speaker 2 1:12

And it's been a while . It was a good summer , because I know you missed us . We were pretty much like in a good little summer break .

Speaker 1 1:18

you know doing , you know you know what I'm gonna be honest Life is good Life is good .

Speaker 2 1:24

You know what ?

Speaker 1 1:24

I'm saying Like when you're living life . Unfortunately , you don't have time To always talk about it , that's true man , life is rough .

Speaker 2 1:30

And that's what the podcast is about . You know To talk about experiences and moments you've had . One of them Is a big moment I've had . It's I won a A soccer season Y'all . I know what it felt like to win .

Speaker 2 1:43

I know what it felt like to be on that english shit , and for that , for a second , I knew what it felt like to be messy . Or like , for a second , you know , to to win a trophy . Like because , like , I've never been involved in a single sport , because , like , growing up , my parents couldn't afford like , signing you up to a team yeah , and that included , like football teams , like , not once even . Actually , in the only fond memory I have was a good friend of mine . He will hopefully make a podcast . His mom

Fernando's Soccer Championship Story

Speaker 2 2:09

paid for one season for me to play soccer .

Speaker 2 2:12

I was like a little kid , you know , because my parents couldn't afford it , right . So over the years , man , you know , you have some friends . Slowly but surely Tico was a part of that I started to get together like , hey , let's join , let's join the soccer league , you know . And over time , this is like five , six years man of constant grind . I'm not gonna lie . This is why it felt so good this victory , because , like , when you play a soccer game , you know all things equal , like it's so competitive that it is beyond that . People who are bigger than you , taller than you , more gifted than you , can play well , and it's fascinating seeing that they take it seriously , like they show up late at night . They got kids , they got things to do . You know , hey , I can't play , so part of the like in the last five to six years of the process is getting that , even assembling the team , because you know , I got kids , I got to go to work , I got to drive this out of town .

Speaker 2 3:03

So to find people that are committed for a series of 12 weeks to play goalie consistently , to play defense and come up but yeah , hey , the game's at 1045 . Can you make it ? Most people are like no , I got to go to work tomorrow . So you add that plus the physicality of what is the season Because you play multiple games , it feels just like the Premier League , right .

Speaker 3 3:27

And they still got to have that ego , you know .

Speaker 2 3:29

To play it , man To score .

Speaker 3 3:31

That's crazy .

Speaker 2 3:41

But to do it and like I look back to it because , like the victory is like , I see , like it's what every sports documentary talks about , it's like to really experience it . It's something like I urge everybody that has like a goal , whatever it may be like , really stick to it , because it's true , because the goal implied everything , including my diet . Like I became my guy that ate sardines . I never fucking ate sardines , and now I'm here eating sardines .

Speaker 3 3:58

That's what I'm saying , like I something that I wouldn't .

Speaker 2 4:01

I wouldn't touch to eat , but like my diet changed .

Speaker 3 4:02

You know my like I . I'm saying like I something I wouldn't .

Speaker 2 4:03

I wouldn't touch this to eat , but like my diet changed you know my like I I'm a goofy guy to buy like wheat , fucking rice , you know , combine it , eat like proper soccer meals , go for runs , hit the gym and like for a goal in mind , because I wanted to know what what victory felt like , you know , and and looking back at holding the trophy is like I see it , because it's something that I never thought I would experience in a lifetime , because it's really like award-winning it .

Speaker 2 4:29

When I won it , it felt like when I got my college degree , like it was up there yes , it was up there , like of emotional level , but like all , like everything , like looking back , like going to the gym getting injured , like I remember getting injured going to the er , like it was , it wasn't even worth it like I'm losing money in this , but like , and then like come , you qualify for the semifinals and then this is someone that I want to talk about , because this is like the biggest part , because there's what I like to call lady doubt , like suddenly she just shows up in , like in the back of your ear , start like whispering that seems real , yeah , you know you're you , I made it to the semifinals but like , for some reason , like an echo chamber of saying like I'm calm , I am confident , really made me , you know , not only be part of the team but be part of a heroic part of the team , like contributing to the team and like I'm not the biggest guy , the strongest guy , but like I know that I put in practice , Like I will go and practice against the wall , practice dribbling , practice , the touch , like really , like dedicated to myself .

Speaker 2 5:28

I was like no , I really want to know what that victory felt like , cause it's not , you can't not buy it , you know you , you have to really physically earn it .

Speaker 2 5:38

Like to it's something that's me and I know it's minimal , but it's like it's experience to to really feel that , that , that ecstasy , that of winning , that , that grind he said it in the anime man to win you gotta change yourself you gotta be able to adapt and change your ego you , you like all that stuff is 100% like , 100% true , in the moment , like I played the semi-finals , it's part of like contributing to the point where , like I am , they seen that I'm bold , taking chances , and thus the team is confident and say , hey , if fernando's doing this , then I can do it too . So the whole team is lifted . And just a quick anecdote in the finals , no , I wasn't the mvp . In fact , the imagine this right is the final game . Like you , you step in bro , and the thing is everybody's faster , stronger , and this is the unbeaten team . They've been undefeated the entire season , so nobody's beat them .

Speaker 2 6:31

So , like , the pressure is even higher . And here comes a moment where they're about to score the goal , is about to cross that line , but then here comes fernando . You know like superman , all these thoughts that pico literally just said , you know , like as stupid as it is , but I saved the team from them giving us , us the advantage , and you being being a heroic moment , and something that like was very important to you , really like it resonates . It's hard to explain , but you really have to feel it like lifting that trophy with the team , like all the culmination of like six years consistently showing up , never making it , and just like , and the biggest battle during the finale was when we were up eight , five , so we're up . And then again , lady , lady , doubt creeped up at minute three and she was saying that you know , you're up three points , but they can tie , tie , they can score a goal a minute . It could happen , you see .

Speaker 3 7:30

Luck is a big thing in soccer , and suddenly 6-8 .

Speaker 2 7:34

And I'm like , hey , it's still time . And then they score against 7-8 on mistakes . It was still a minute and a half left and my eyes and this is the only thing I could think about , bro , because all these thoughts were coming , like all this emotional hype Maybe God brought me here just to humble me saying , bro , why are you getting hyped with a dumb amateur game ? Like , put your feet on the ground , bro , like this isn't the World Cup .

Speaker 3 7:59

No , but then that blue log flaring goes in your eye .

Speaker 1 8:02

That's what I think Like the puzzle piece was starting to fall apart .

Speaker 3 8:04

And then he's like no 20 seconds . I'm not going to let my ego in here , 15 seconds left .

Speaker 2 8:13

Yeah , keep going , keep going .

Speaker 1 8:15

I'm not done yet , bro I'm not done , yet I got a little bit more . I got a little bit more 10 seconds left .

Speaker 2 8:23

God man . And then seconds left and then , like the moment , like it hit zero , just seeing everyone and the pitchers collapsed , even the losing team me .

Speaker 2 8:33

I got on my knees and like , thank you , god , you know five , six years of this , you know . But like I saw what it felt like , like I was like , oh , because all these like professionals talk about it , all these like that talk about it , all these like that , I grind for this . You know I was poor , you know I came from the backside of the Philippines , manny Pacquiao , you know , like I'm just , it's an extent . But you're like , ah , what are they talking about ? But the truth is that you can feel it like you can experience something of that magnitude .

Speaker 2 9:00

It can be something that , whatever may be to me it happened to be soccer . But it's like he said you , you have to change . Like my diet changed , my mentality changed . Like I had to think that that stupid stuff like mike tyson just say like , close right , get to the pit , the the ring , the more confident I get , mine was the pitch , the closer I got to the pitch , the market was . I had to change , like all this , just to like , lift the plastic . But it wasn't about the trophy , it was pretty much about me , how I pulled Fernando .

Speaker 3 9:30

You never thought about the friends you made along the way and the bodies I stomped on and the blood that I made in sweat and tears to get to this place . Don't forget all the teams that you crushed to get there .

Speaker 2 9:45

All the egos that you crushed , you broke , bro . That was seeing third and fourth place play and I'm like they're playing the third and fourth place where I don't belong there because I belong in the finale . That was fucking with my head , like my ego was like .

Speaker 3 9:59

Remember when you talked about that your MVP moment was just stopping a goal . That happens in that Blue Lock final game in the U-20 .

Speaker 1 10:06

Yeah , it's like they give it everything just to stop that goal . Yeah , bro .

Speaker 3 10:10

Just stopping that goal keeps the game going .

Speaker 2 10:13

Yes , save them . They're hearing people clapping like whoa . You know , even you don't believe that . Stop that Insane bro Nah man .

Speaker 3 10:22

But I want to give shout out to everybody . Lulav keeps going to the second half .

Speaker 2 10:25

Shout out to Tino Luis Adrian the union , la Union , it's been great , wonderful five , six years .

Speaker 3 10:33

Wasn't that my team , the union La ?

Speaker 2 10:34

Union , yeah , la Union , the union , and many people , everybody you know , even you , tico , you know like we could have done it . I was there a couple years back . Everyone that participated man

Lessons From The Victory Journey

Speaker 2 10:47

lifting that was . I thought about y'all because I was like the journey along the way , the people that had to fall off because they couldn't make it life happened . That's what makes it so difficult finding team members all the people that got injured .

Speaker 3 10:59

All the people that got injured , damn that's terrible all the egos he had to crush . That's not real .

Speaker 2 11:07

Overcome , you know , like overcome myself too , you know , Overcoming doubt , overcoming that these people are better than me , because seeing talented people , the guy that scored the five of the seven goals that almost tied to us , still wasn't enough to win , and that's what , really , what shocks you like , like I was , like you , I was still more , if that makes sense , you know but it is you .

Speaker 3 11:32

In that final game was there a little shit tuck into no man . This is the one . This is the one where I went when I walked in I prayed .

Speaker 2 11:38

I prayed to god . I please make it a fit . We're gonna make it a fair game . Nobody's injured . You know , best man win and that's what made the victory so sweet , like it was a moment where I contributed , the team won . It was a team effort . It was a close game , cinematic experience . I thought we were about to lose . Lady Doubt showed up out of nowhere . I don't even know why she showed up , but it happens , like all these cinematic events , like , just like the games happen , and it was worth it , bro . It was worth it to be tired as fuck the next day at work . But I urge everybody , everybody wants in your life , whatever goal it may be , yes , keep being persistent . If it doesn't matter , if it's goofy to you , to anybody else , but if it means something to you , I urge you . You know this is why I'm so . The podcast has gone for so long . You know this is a perfect example . We're like . You know , consistency does pay off .

Speaker 3 12:27

Consistency pay off no , he's not wrong . Yeah , man , thanks for watching hbo mac . Yeah , bro , but we're back summer break . Hey , I've been locked in as you guys can tell , I've been locked in . Yeah man .

Speaker 2 12:40

So that was . That was my little summer story . That's awesome . I just want to give a shout out to the team .

Speaker 3 12:44

That's why good stuff are you guys coming back next season ? Are you guys gonna defend the title ? Yeah , we have to . We have to we got to . We're running back , running back .

Speaker 2 12:53

You got to give your Eastergeist speech , bro .

Speaker 3 12:55

I'm going to bring him , I'm going to take him to victory for a second year .

Speaker 2 12:59

I will bring the U-20 to Houston .

Speaker 3 13:03

There you go . Well , actually it's the no , no , no , Over 30 years ago 30 ?

Speaker 1 13:07

The World Cup .

Speaker 2 13:09

Under 40 Cup .

Speaker 3 13:13

No , but you guys are playing in the main league .

Speaker 2 13:15

Right yeah , we got promoted , promoted .

Speaker 3 13:19

Did you guys get promoted again , you guys ?

Speaker 2 13:20

prestiged . Yeah , you get to the next level up , so we're in the higher ranking now .

Speaker 3 13:24

Yeah the higher ranking now . We're going to bring you an update on next season . Thanks y'all , x't wait . Dog , yeah , that's awesome .

Speaker 1 13:31

Thanks y'all , x-men's got a new story going on for him that's right y'all . Dandaran , though , was another thing that we said we wanted to hop on next shit .

Speaker 2 13:38

That's why I love it bro it's such a good anime you know what I'm saying ?

Speaker 3 13:47

I just skip I think it works , man , it does . The publisher of the creator was like hey , I need you to read all these romance , manga , nobles , right , because I want a shunning with an actual romance that works and feels real . So he did , he did the research and he inserts this romance that works . It's done very well Of course , over here we're like grown adults , so we're thinking about you know you can relate to like two kids holding hands , but I'm sitting there like my boy , okaru .

Speaker 1 14:14

No , he didn't , it's not that much .

Speaker 2 14:16

I like the ones more where , like , for example , whenever Okaru was in the warm , like in that warm egg thing like a protector from the lava , yeah , and she like no , Cardu , I'm going to save you .

Speaker 1 14:32

She thought she lost him , yeah .

Speaker 2 14:33

It showed like oh , I never had a bitch there to me , you know .

Speaker 3 14:38

Love me that much . That's why I like Momo , because Momo will take some first steps . She was the one in the car when they're holding hands .

Speaker 1 14:43

Oh , yeah , yeah yeah , she was like is anything wrong ? He's like no , she's . When he initiated the little hand game yeah , absolutely Like the spinning . Yeah , that , yeah , that was it . Yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3 14:54

Because Okada might not be able to take the first step and I think that's why that's funny .

Speaker 1 14:56

I can relate to that , bro , even the fact that he's like getting in shape for her , like just trying to get better to end up protecting his friends you know , no yeah , they've seen one .

Speaker 3 15:18

You're still missing one ball he's still missing one ball .

Speaker 1 15:20

And again , what is you forget ? One ball is real

Dandadan Anime Discussion

Speaker 1 15:26

so uh , anyway , but uh , yeah , no , it's , it's good , man like it has that what was episode 6 ? Episode 7 from season 1 was supposed to be like iconically sad when you figure out homegirl with the pink hair oh yeah , the silky story . The silky , yeah , the silky story was crazy but it was cool though , like even the fact that , like she's kind of taking the back seat , but they're about to go into another type of fight . Oh , okay , okay , okay , yeah .

Speaker 3 15:51

We're like mid-season so I know we just got through the whole arc of them facing the warm and evil eye taking over Gigi's body . Yeah , which is really cool , and I think , Gigi's character is really dope you know , that's actually cool how about the scene when they were trying to exercise ? They get the rock band . I forget what they call it .

Speaker 1 16:18

Oh , I haven't seen that episode yet .

Speaker 2 16:19

That's the one I'm missing that's the one I'm saying I gotta wait they get the rock band to come in .

Speaker 3 16:23

But there's a one by one where , like the sequence that they do , turning on the knobs and the volume , uh , it's like one by one with back to the future .

Speaker 1 16:30

Oh I did .

Speaker 2 16:31

I saw that side by side , it was a straight homage to them like there was a scene where , like they have , like they're like that one of our genius , we're about to eat the food . But the food , the food , is real there's real images of food . Yeah , and I love that about it , bro , like I love the randomness you know why , though it's not random .

Speaker 1 16:47

So the artist was did the manga so well that they were like they cannot imitate it , so they had to actually use real images of food in order to replicate what he did in the manga yeah , I didn't even know that either . I was like that's a random plug , but it looks like real food . From what ?

Speaker 2 16:59

I've read he's like a student of the guy that chainsaw man like chainsaw man was the one like pretty much like hey , you know , just go ham , go crazy .

Speaker 3 17:07

Like you know , if you want to paint a toe as a villain , you know like whatever man is getting wild right now is it panels , 10 panels in detail of the dead demon fannies damn straight gooning damn for 10 panels . That's two pages bro sorry , random plug , I don't even read chase no man , but like man , that's a gooner manga for sure . But , Chainsaw man has never been known for anything .

Speaker 1 17:34

Well , okay , real quick . I do think it's hilarious that in Dandodon people stand up in their panties Like in the first season . That happens like two or three different times . Remember when they're fighting in the school .

Speaker 3 17:51

Okay , I thought a really cool fight aspect was fighting in the school that was made out of water . Yeah , yeah , yeah , the crab or whatever . Whenever they fight something supernatural , all of a sudden like this , like the like color switch happens , yeah the whole atmosphere happens .

Speaker 1 17:58

Yeah , I think it's very whenever evil eyes in control , everything was purple yeah and then when okun fights back all red red , yeah , bro , when he busted his ass in that box and he just kept going and kept going .

Speaker 3 18:10

Yeah , that scene was so badass , I'm not talking about it . Do-do-do-do-do-do , I'm watching . English 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 .

Speaker 1 18:18

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 3 18:19

Yeah , yeah , that was it , that was it .

Speaker 1 18:25

Yeah bro , it was badass . I was like once somebody gets in this box , there's no getting out . And I was like , oh no , and then he fucked .

Speaker 3 18:31

Oh , it was cool that was a cool ass scene , dog . I always want to translate it into like what I would say . It's like well , you done , fucked up three ways , my friend .

Speaker 1 18:42

That was funny dog . Now you done messed up three ways home , to dub it like that yeah that'd be fun . Yeah , we gotta do some shit like that .

Speaker 2 18:49

That would be hilarious , bro , my homie yeah even , even like jinjin's , like uh , what do you call it ? Ghost entitled that .

Speaker 1 18:56

That was a sad story too oh , the evil eyes sad story , yeah , but we don't know if that's real or not . Was that bullshit ? Remember ? Because even yeah , because in the end he says that evil eye like whatever you wanted . That's really an evil spirit yeah , it'll project itself , however , it needs to for you .

Speaker 3 19:10

Maybe it might have started like that . Him being a kid locked up as a sacrifice , so maybe he does have a sad backstory , but now he's entirely an evil spirit that's trying to kill all humanity .

Speaker 1 19:22

Which again , I think it makes even more sense because Gigi's whole thing is about making friends . He sees a lonely kid . All he wants to do is have a friend . That's why he's like he sees a lonely kid .

Speaker 2 19:31

All he , all he wants to do is have a friend .

Speaker 1 19:32

That's why he's like got his ass , you know he was waiting for , like the acceptance opening because I feel like , if he rejected it , the typical demon yeah , he's like I got you buddy , no worries , that's what sold his ass yeah yeah , yeah , so that was me yeah his ability is badass though him with a little fucking spirit ball bro , the volleyball , that is the negative energy That'll kill shit . It's badass . That's pretty cool . It's badass .

Speaker 2 19:51

All the souls With hatred . He pulls them in and like Just evil spirits .

Speaker 1 19:55

Yeah , it's like it's just straight negative energy .

Speaker 3 19:58

We got a few more episodes left , so I think More peak income it's gonna be good , hey man , you know , I did want to talk about Something , grandma .

Speaker 1 20:04

Yeah , oh bro , oh bro , g-maul is crazy .

Speaker 2 20:08

I love that concept that it's like we can goon over like old lady over 60 . Like , let's go .

Speaker 3 20:15

I like that the cat is arguing . He's like what's up with this super strong hag yeah , the evil one of the clan . Yeah , and the cat goes like what do you mean ? You got a super old hag at home . That's hilarious . A super strong , strong , you know , lady at home .

Speaker 1 20:30

Yeah , because they had no , so I got a ps5 man shout out to my brother who gave me his old ps5 , oh nice you're a little late to the game , brother , I am I'm hella late , but I was never gonna buy it . I was never gonna say it's about to come hey , but it's free though . You know what I'm saying , so it was cool , though , because I was never gonna spend six to five hundred bucks on the system , so i'm't have PS5 , so I'm just kidding .

Speaker 3 20:50

Yeah , no .

Speaker 1 20:50

But he's like it shuts off every now and then and I'm like what do you mean shuts off ? So the game would just like something would get corrupted in the game , Sometimes out of play , and it would just shut off . But it doesn't happen all the time . I played for like 10 hours of the day , no problems . I ended up buying . I bought , like , the online game Plus Pass , right , so you get access to Sony's library , all kinds of things , right . So I downloaded a few games Miles Morales , Spider-Man , Nice which was really fun . I get to test drive Spider-Man 2 for a couple of hours .

Speaker 3 21:25

You know , what's cool about all those gaming services now Is that you can get so much like . You can play so many free games . That's what I'm older ones and they're great for us like

Detroit: Become Human Game Review

Speaker 3 21:40

I never played those new ones for free .

Speaker 1 21:40

It's like , what I can play that ? What do you mean ? Yeah , so like bloodborne . Never played bloodborne bloodborne , but it's got a great story , great reviews on it . I play .

Speaker 3 21:46

It's a hard-ass game though , bro , oh yeah all those games are difficult , yeah that's one of the demon souls series .

Speaker 1 21:52

Right , yeah , it's fucking wild , but then , uh , one of the other ones that , oh , I ghost of you , was to Tewashima Tewashima , I downloaded that one as well . That one's cool , played a little bit of that Fun . The one that really hooked my interest , though , god of War .

Speaker 3 22:03

Fall Guys . Fall Guys is where it's at , though .

Speaker 1 22:05

No , detroit , become Human .

Speaker 3 22:12

Yeah about the . Oh , I played Luna .

Speaker 1 22:14

Okay , okay , okay .

Speaker 3 22:15

Bro being human or something .

Speaker 1 22:16

Being human .

Speaker 3 22:17

Is those sex ?

Speaker 1 22:18

No , no , no . Detroit it's a different , so let me paint the premise for you . This is what really gave me , got me impressed in the game . This is one of the games that has like a bunch of Alternate endings Kind of .

Speaker 2 22:30

Not as much as you would like , it's always the thick robots . The reboosey .

Speaker 1 22:34

So it is . It's one of those games where it has like 90 different endings . You know that you can unlock in the whole process of the aieuc and uh oh , detroit , become human yeah

Speaker 3 22:43

actually , I actually never heard it came out on ps4 , but the graphics dog for it's back from 2018 yeah , okay , 2018 bro the graphics , one of those big like hit games that kind of get like shuffled away in history .

Speaker 1 22:55

Dog , it's good and the premise is it's the year 2038 or android , so imagine chat , gpt , but in android bodies , right ? Yeah , so same thing that that elon and everybody else is trying to do right now . But it's there , but they're not like oh , they look like androids , they look like humans . The only thing that indicates that they're androids is like the little circle thing that's on the side of their , their heads , or they have jackets that you know say whatever the profession is . But you can buy different models . There are made models . There's a dad model , there's a husband model , there's a kid model , right ? Why raise a family when you can just buy one , right ?

Speaker 3 23:27

I'm sure we're gonna get there some point , oh yeah , out of time .

Speaker 1 23:30

It was wild , because the premise was supposed to be like in the far future and I'm like , because it was okay , 2018 , 2038 is when it takes place . It's 20 years in the future . I'm like , yeah , but we're not far off from this . You're surprised that we're advancing pretty quick . So the thing is , it's like AI , androids , are now taking over jobs . People are losing jobs . I'm sure that will happen and I'm like it's , it's very , and it's like so now there's a hatred for Android .

Speaker 3 23:52

Yeah , all you bastards Clankers . That I was that . Okay , you're going to hate all the clankers , but there's going to be a couple of cool ones . You know you're going to be like what's that ?

Speaker 1 24:01

Well , first off , that's wild . In 18 years , when we go back to this , I can't wait to clip that , bro , it's going to be like look at this guy he can never be governor .

Speaker 3 24:17

He sent the C word hard r at the end of it , bro , it's crazy .

Speaker 1 24:20

It's clanker , bro , it's clanker what about android 18 ? You know okay okay , okay , so the you get three different stories in this one . You are an android that is like a model one , right , not a model , she's a , she's a maid and you're in like a broken home . The dad is a real fuck up . He's a drug addict and there's a daughter who you feel really bad for that . She's an abusive family and it's just him and the dad , because oh , you play as the ai .

Speaker 1 24:41

Yes , so you play as that one . And then there's another one . There's three different stories that are going on in the story . The second one you play as is marcus . Marcus is actually from a really really well home , from a famous artist . He's treated like an equal . The guy thinks that he's got more inside of him than what he even has to know , right . And then there's a third option or third character that you play . His name is connor . Connor is a prototype who's actually working for the police to find deviants . Deviants are what's known as in the ai for the game , are people that break their programming and they're allowed to do things outside of what their program is .

Speaker 1 25:10

So I wrote I robot , but they can break the three rules right , okay , hired by the mafia , go kill whatever kind of , but it's like because of emotional distress that they're going through and you actually end up seeing the segregation of how the androids are treated differently , as , for example , on the bus . There's like a loading dock , like where you would put your luggage , that kind of thing in the back , and the separate areas like this is the androids , but then there's the rest of the bus where the humans can be at . You know what I'm saying ? It's it's really wild like the bus stops .

Speaker 2 25:33

It's just their items exactly . Are they right ? Yeah , so . But I programmed the feelings like we gotta be careful , like well , that's the thing about it .

Speaker 1 25:43

They claim that they're alive because once they break these programs , you're alive no , because it's the emotional distress . Andrews are treated like shit in this world , bro . They're treated like dogs yeah , is this self-aware ?

Speaker 3 25:52

like once it becomes self-aware , then you believe you're alive I told that it can be self-awareaware .

Speaker 2 25:56

That's what I'm saying .

Speaker 1 25:57

It's a dangerous , it's a slippery slope .

Speaker 3 25:59

It's a slippery slope .

Speaker 1 26:00

You're programming not to be .

Speaker 3 26:01

You gotta program not to be .

Speaker 1 26:03

Yeah , but then once it gets aware .

Speaker 2 26:05

I gave my toaster the hardware to have the capability .

Speaker 1 26:09

And now ? And so look , the Android's argument is Now give us freedom .

Speaker 2 26:15

We got to shut this shit down .

Speaker 1 26:17

That's what it ultimately comes down to . There are alternate routes that you can go in the game , but the government intervenes and then we start getting rounded up in camps .

Speaker 3 26:25

Dog , how do you turn this shit up ? It's crazy . It's crazy , but the story . It spans in different ways Do they have propaganda like Trump's new PBS videos ? You have a public opinion .

Speaker 1 26:33

You have the public that goes on your side , whether they can be for you or against you . You can choose to be violent or nonviolent .

Speaker 2 26:39

What is freedom to them ? Like I live in the forest and shit .

Speaker 1 26:41

To not to be able to procreate to be equal rights how .

Speaker 3 26:44

Equal rights . You're a robot .

Speaker 1 26:46

No , they have love robots . Is it better to be a slave than to die ?

Speaker 1 26:55

There's a murder case that you had to end up solving the first case that you actually have to solve in the game is a hostage situation where an android is snapped . He killed the husband . The wife is freaking out and he is . He was going to get replaced , they were going to replace his ass . So now he's like he went crazy . That's what made him snap , the emotional distress . So now all that he has a daughter head and he's just like and you have to figure out what's going on . Right , you have to examine the crime scene , figure out and piece of shit all together tells you hostage yeah and then basically I like this retro game review .

Speaker 1 27:24

Dude , it's so cool because then at the end of that first level you can either like befriend him to actually make himself turn it in himself in I think I don't even know , because I haven't unlocked that route . One of them is okay , you get close enough , you can't make a bond of trust , so he pulls . He was going to jump with the girl , you snatch her off and you throw her back , you sacrifice yourself . The other one that I just unlocked , where I was like fuck it , clint Eastwood and that bitch , I went in there with the gun , I hit it , I lied , shot his ass , got the girl and then , as a cold-blooded motherfucker , he pops the mag out the girl's crying on the floor .

Speaker 1 28:01

He doesn't say shit to her bro , he walks off like a thug .

Speaker 2 28:03

That's like damn I am not programmed for emotional distress you call the wrong android anyway , dog .

Speaker 1 28:09

So it's walked out like a real clanker like robocop bro that's the first level , dog , and then the story goes from there . So , anyway , you can choose to start a revolution , you can choose to be a pacifist , angry characters can die in your story and you and like you'll see like missing in the map , where , like , a story should have taken place but it doesn't transpire because your character has died , that's because , of the events that you took place .

Speaker 1 28:31

you can choose to be like more or less extreme in the in your actions , I guess . But like a simple thing thing of I'm getting pressed by somebody's son and he's really getting to my shit and I have an option I can chill and not do anything or I can push him . I was like a pushback should be fine . No , bro , I pushed the fuck out of him . He hits his head , hits his temple , and the dad's like holy shit , you killed him . And I'm like that was an accident , bro , I didn't mean to do that . So then you have a choice .

Speaker 3 28:55

You have to be careful as an AI , bro , you don't know your own strength you kill the daddy , you kill the whole room .

Speaker 1 29:00

I killed the whole . No , it was crazy , but like I burned the place down .

Speaker 3 29:04

It's very interesting , because the more radicalized , you become as a robot , then it's going to lead you down the revolution . Yeah , bro , but it's wild .

Speaker 1 29:10

Let me just tell I ended up killing the chick and the daughter . It turned out the daughter that you were trying to protect the entire time was an AI , right , and you had no idea the entire time . Yeah , so it's kind of a fuck you thing . It's like do you still want to keep on running with this girl now that she's not a human or do you love her any less ? And you have the choice to make . Right , you're playing as an AI , right ? Yeah , you're playing as the AI bro that you were trying to protect , that you thought was human , is now an AI and I'm like no , I still care .

Speaker 1 29:42

The FBI come in , they raid the area that we're at . My girl gets shot trying to do shit . It's like Marcus the main . He ends up becoming like a revolutionary . He ends up like getting accused of that murder I was talking about . They throw his ass in the dump . He has to slowly rebuild himself . He ends up finding this revolutionary outpost and I slowly start like awakening androids throughout the city and I keep on preaching pacifist bro , but there's a love interest that you have that she's like we need to fight back . We need to fight back and , depending on how much you love the bitch , you'll do it right . And ultimately , in the end , the public sees me , bro , like we're on our hands and knees and they're like are you really gonna shoot unarmed people ? And , bro , they still kill us dog like it's wild . We still survive . There's a little bit of us . A big ass battle takes place . I choose love . I kiss this bitch . At the very end , everybody's like the president's like all right , stop , we've gone too far , it's too much .

Speaker 1 30:22

And out of that time I had connor . I corrupted him to a deviant right , not as a bad way , but like he got more awake seeing all the shit that we were experiencing . Because I saw some of these stories overlap and I'm like hey , bro , you need your help , go to fucking cyber life and awaken the thousand troops that we have , that are there . And I have a choice . I have a partner that a human partner , that doesn't like cops or doesn't like androids the entire time . He gets kidnapped at the very fucking end .

Speaker 1 30:44

I have to make a choice . Do I save him ? Do I corrupt the people ? What do I do ? I save homeboy and in the end , because I befriended him so much throughout the game , he's like hey , I think what you're doing may be right . Go ahead and do what you got to do and I'm able to awaken the army of thousands of androids and Detroit's like , okay , we got to leave these guys alone , let them have their peace , and we'll have to reconcile and see how it goes . This is a new awakening in history for mankind . Maybe android species is a new type of life . Maybe artificial intelligence is a new kind of life . And that's how the game ends . I won freedom by doing all this shit . I was like whoa , this is crazy dog .

Speaker 2 31:16

What if it is ? What if it really is ? Is like our biological species turns

AI Ethics and Future Consciousness

Speaker 2 31:20

into ai , like that , like this is , like it's the way we can travel space , you know , like yeah , the gimmick is in my mind is going to be like hey , just upload your consciousness into the same car .

Speaker 1 31:29

Oh , alien .

Speaker 3 31:30

The new alien earth tv show came out and the title card at the beginning is like there's three type of new species species , or I guess and it's like one of them . Depending on which one goes forward , you know it's going to be what corporation is going to rule everything . So there's the androids , or no ? There's a cyborgs which are on augmented human beings , right . The synths which are like fully created Androids , right . Or the hybrids , which is uploaded consciousness onto an Android . Alienware is posting them like . Those are the three options .

Speaker 1 32:05

That's not going to be far off . Guys , Are you going ?

Speaker 3 32:06

to upgrade yourself to become a cyborg , since which are , just you know , ai's Androids ? Or are you going to upload your consciousness into an ?

Speaker 2 32:13

Android body . It's basically become like a fashion statement .

Speaker 1 32:16

Oh , I haven't watched the episode , so I'll bring that review once I watch the full episode no , it's gonna be because you know you got a lot of good things about you , got a different model for whatever you're feeling .

Speaker 3 32:24

You know I'm saying you're like uh , it's like that netflix series , uh , carbon something oh carbon .

Speaker 1 32:29

I think it's just called carbon or altered carbon or something like he uploads himself into a different body yeah , yeah , I mean that in my mind that's gonna be the future , bro , because I'm like . It's like , oh , you get to live forever . It's like , but it's that gimmick of like is this really you or is it just ?

Speaker 2 32:44

I think that's way , just the ghost , the ai ghost .

Speaker 3 32:46

Yeah , because like we haven't figured out how to like there's so much going on in the brain , you know . Yeah , like we will need like so much like storage capacity for that yeah , I mean hey , but they got terabytes and little things .

Speaker 1 32:56

Now you know what I'm saying . That's true . How much is the human brain ? How many terabytes ?

Speaker 2 33:01

Yeah it's going to be crazy . Can you imagine we're getting there At me in the comments .

Speaker 3 33:05

At me , we're getting there , but yeah .

Speaker 1 33:11

Yeah .

Speaker 3 33:12

I'll talk about my spiritual journey .

Speaker 1 33:13

Break anyway next year we'll see you guys in the next one . No , I'm joking , uh , where's you know what I wanted to know ? Suki's two cents on the whole ai thing oh no well , ladies and gentlemen , this has been the wbm podcast . This is one of your hosts . It's your boy , mark . Please make sure you guys are following us on all of our social medias instagram , twitter , tiktok , youtube .

Speaker 2 33:29

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Speaker 3 33:40

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Speaker 2 33:41

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Speaker 3 33:43

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Speaker 1 33:59

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