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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning in to the WBM podcast. This is one of your hosts. It's your boy Merc Yo. Welcome back everybody. It's your boy, xfer.

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And it's your boy, oski, and the mix.

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And the mix To the Merc.

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Unnecessary Do we have one of an unnecessarily safety net. Do we have for you today?

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Oh, we have. What do we have, guys?

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Oh, we're speaking Thunderbolt.

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We're talking New Avengers.

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That's right, yes, new.

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Avengers Comfort blankets and all that good stuff. You know what I'm saying, guys.

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We're talking the B-Team squad. No, we're talking about like at a restaurant on a Monday when it's empty, was it?

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hype, or was it wildly mediocre? It was highly mediocre. Too late to find out on this one.

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As always, we're going to do a quick update on a special announcement that we have that's right guys, you guys ready, let's go. We're back for another week. This is your boys, your favorite boys in town.

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The boys are back in town.

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Y'all wanna just get the announcement out the way.

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Yes, man.

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We already announced it. I'm sorry. If you watched last week's episode, you saw our special announcement we're gonna be at Comic Bullets for 2020. That's right. June 22nd through the 22nd. Audience is so loud At the Georgia Abroad Convention Center at Comic Pollution 2020.

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That's right, june 22nd, through the 22nd Audience is so loud At the Georgia Abound Convention Center. Yes, georgia Abound Convention Center.

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Ladies and gentlemen, this summer, this summer, this summer Summer, suki over here playing with buttons bro.

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But yeah, no, it's exciting. We're excited to come back. There's a huge line of guests that we have coming.

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Every week they send out a newsletter with announcements and we like to do a little check-in.

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That's right guys.

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Of course, since we just announced, when we haven't had a chance to go over everything, but we're going to give you the Comicpalooza roundup All week, all week, all week. You thought that was funny right, I got to go live with it. I love it. That is the cricket set the first guests that were announced way back when they kicked off with. One of the first guests was maker, extraordinaire science communicator and industry legend, adam Savage.

Speaker 1: 2:12

Oh, Adam Savage. Hey, he's got good work. What is some of the stuff that he does?

Speaker 2: 2:15

man, yeah man. I think he worked in Star Wars. Oh dope, really, he makes stuff.

Speaker 3: 2:21

He's the guy from that show about the Mythbusters. No way, really, that's him, is he? Yeah, I'm fairly sure that's him, and him and his brother used to do stunts and shit Like yo. Is this true? And I think one they did was a blowing from the cops, you know, when the breathalyzer, the machine, the myths and stuff. They beat it but they didn't show you, they just know they can't do it. It's possible.

Speaker 2: 2:44

Oh, he was in Mythbusters. Yeah, the goat, the goat. Yeah, see. And he did work in Star Wars, episode I, so he made stuff for Star Wars.

Speaker 1: 2:55

Episode I oh, that's pretty dope. Okay, okay, okay, but Mythbusters though, bro.

Speaker 3: 2:58

That's impressive in my opinion. That was a big show for us back in the day. I'm surprised you didn't. You were at Midwesters then. I liked it. It was some cool stuff.

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Among some of the other stars was New York Times best selling author of A Head Full of Ghosts and the Cabin at the End of the World. And the Cabin at the End of the World Along with Dune and Long Life star Alicia Witt. She was in the original Dune.

Speaker 1: 3:24

Don't get me the original dude. She was in the original dude, okay, okay, don't get him confused, don't get him confused with me the original dude is still pretty cool, damn.

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My name is Paul Artuk Andradez.

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Duke of Arrakis.

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Another guest coming up is Patton Oswalt. He voiced Ratatouille.

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He voiced Ratatouille.

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He voiced Ratatouille. Yes.

Speaker 3: 3:47

That's right, that's dope. Look at this. He's a great comedian.

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He's in a bunch of stuff.

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He was in Agents of SHIELD, his wife wrote this extraordinary novel about a serial killer in California I think it was called the Golden State Killer and she did this novel based on him and she documented everything. And then a few months later, unfortunately, she passed away, I believe of cancer. And then a few months later they captured the guy. Really, yeah, man, they captured the guy Great story.

Speaker 2: 4:17

He seemed like such a cool guy, a cool nerd. He was in Parks and Rec and he was doing an episode where he does a filibuster and he goes into what the next Star Wars movie could be and he basically describes the beginning of the Boba Fett series. Sam, you see a hand come up Way before the Boba Fett show came out what I remember that from Parks and Rec.

Speaker 3: 4:39

Dude. They probably were like, bro, we're going to do it.

Speaker 1: 4:41

They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as fuck when they watched that Sam?

Speaker 3: 4:43

They probably were like, bro, we're going to do it.

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They probably just fired it Somebody was faded as fuck when they watched that Sad tattooing Hand shoots up and more author another author that's coming up. Writer. Sunday Times bestselling. Author of the Drowning Empire Trilogy and the Gods Below, andreas Stewart. Oh yes, I've read it Moving on, Don't get me so lied to we got some good ones for you this week, In case you missed it Sosie Bacon, who's best known for her leading role in the horror sensation Smile.

Speaker 1: 5:07

Yeah, I haven't watched Smile.

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There's a few stars for horror fans, yeah there's a few horror fans out there, for anime fans. They are going to have Sean Shamo.

Speaker 1: 5:17

Sean Shamala Goku himself. Who also played Goku's black, who also plays Ikori, who also plays a different goku bus, a sad goku.

Speaker 2: 5:28

He's played many roles but uh speaking of last week, actors that could play multiple characters in the same universe yes, sean shemo michael, michael b jordan and sean shemo. Yes, and we also have superstars lisa mary baron, aka victoria, and tory wilson from the wwe home fame and with charles wright, also known as the godfather, yes, so they got some, uh, some good big names superstars I love you after that they announced a big one, which was hayden christensen the king himself never heard of christian, so demand him if the legend we're really excited about that.

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Well, we talked about a lot about it last week. Uh coming good fans, they have some uh comic book uh creators founding partner of emash comics and top cow, mark silvestri and joe esma, creator of morning glories and much more guys, so make sure you tune in, we're at oh, we got a couple more. We do have a couple more. I'm sorry, we're doing the full rundown. We're doing the full rundown. He said we're at. Oh, we got a couple more. We do have a couple more. I'm sorry, we're doing the full rundown.

Speaker 1: 6:26

We're doing the full rundown he said we're doing the full rundown, damn it, we're doing the whole thing. We're doing the whole thing. You don't leave with the credits.

Speaker 2: 6:32

Yeah, okay, uh. And then has anybody heard of a series called resident alien?

Speaker 1: 6:38

oh, I haven't, but I know that there are five stars that are coming from that show yes, uh, alan Tudyk.

Speaker 2: 6:44

I think he plays the alien.

Speaker 1: 6:45

Not one, but two.

Speaker 2: 6:47

But Alan Tudyk is cool because he voices like a bunch of characters, like he voice a droid in Star Wars, in Rogue One.

Speaker 1: 6:52

Yeah, beep, beep, no, no, no, it's yeah the Empire droid, the badass one.

Speaker 3: 7:00

Yeah, the black guy. Oh, he played the pirate in Dodgeball, he does. He played the pirate in.

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Dodgeball, and in the DC universe he voices like Clayface.

Speaker 1: 7:08

He's like Pirate Pete or something like that. You're not a real pirate, Alex Waterman Sarah.

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Tomko and Corey Reynolds, also all from Racing Alien, and we got some cosplay guests and more guests like coming with guests Christopher Rocho and Carl Horn, plus more, more announcements. You need to see James Cheek, keith Silverstone, spike Spencer they could be heard in Evangelion, pokemon, bleach, bunga, stray Dogs Just more anime voice acting and then adding to the Star Wars lineup. They also have Tamera Morrison that we already talked about Plays Jango Fett and Boba Fett. And I'm sure there are going to be more announcements coming up and much more yeah much more.

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So stay tuned in the following weeks for more.

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I'm going to show you how I do that, and so much more. Ladies and gentlemen, tune in for the following weeks, and we're going to have so much more for you guys, alright.

Speaker 2: 8:00

More than jumping, bro.

Speaker 1: 8:05

No, no, no I just wanted to see how y'all were going to fall flat when at.

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At the George R Brown convention, when June 20th to the 22nd, that's right.

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So make sure you get your tickets. Be there early, get your VIP access, bring cash. There's going to be a lot of things for you to be buying, especially in this recession. Speaking of the recession, yeah, segue into, segue into a Talking about Avengers in the budget.

Speaker 1: 8:29

Something in the way that was a yeah Avengers on a budget, on a diet keto budget, is exactly what we got Facts, man.

Speaker 2: 8:38

Yeah, budget, avengers, sure, budget.

Speaker 3: 8:40

Avengers. It wasn't bad, but it was more like this could have been like an eight-part episode series on Disney+, you know what I thought.

Speaker 2: 8:47

So If this wasn't Disney+, there could have been a couple episodes where we expanded on the story a little more and maybe I would have been more invested. I was like man watching the movies. I was like I could have waited until this got to Disney+.

Speaker 1: 8:59

Yeah, Now it's not bad. Yeah, we're giving our honest opinion right out the gate.

Speaker 2: 9:09

So, yeah, yeah, we came out swinging.

Speaker 1: 9:10

It was wildly mediocre.

Speaker 2: 9:10

Uh, I don't think it was mediocre. I think it was like I could have waited for disney plus, but it's not bad, it's not bad, I just wouldn't for me.

Speaker 1: 9:16

I'm like, if it's if, if I'm waiting for it on netflix, bro, then it wasn't good, you know it wasn't great okay, that's a good measure, like okay I see if I could have waited for it on netflix or you know whatever.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Yeah yeah, that's, that's my, my argument. Like you had to be there to watch infinity war in theaters, endgame in theaters, spider-man in theaters like those are moments you're like, yeah, it was in their mind, but um so so have we been spoiled because it's been so good that, like, the standards are so fucking high.

Speaker 2: 9:45

Well, people were saying that this is kind of hopeful because it's kind of like Marvel getting back to form, Because it does set up like a new, like hey, we're kind of getting back to character focus and good stories.

Speaker 1: 9:59

Yeah, that was their thing.

Speaker 2: 10:03

They tried to say this is quality over quantity. Yeah, this is us getting back to proper form. So that's where I'm at. Like, well, it wasn't that bad of a movie. It is an improvement on what they've been releasing.

Speaker 1: 10:11

Yeah, it's not terrible, but I mean, like, when I saw things like Black Widow was like I want to say right underneath this as far as the movie goes, and I'm like I I think this is much better than black widow. Yeah, you know, I'm sorry. Like how about this? I enjoyed this version of black widow more than I did, uh, scarlett johansson so far really well, yelena, yeah, florence pugh's character, I mean like she's just hotter

Speaker 1: 10:37

no, but she's just a likable character on screen, yeah but again I'm like but why did they rob scarlett johansson then, bro? Why didn't she get a chance to like, and you know what she did, have moments on screen where she got to grow, but nobody cared, no, nobody cared.

Speaker 3: 10:49

We all missed her from iron man 2. You know we all miss her from there like damn that version of her was banger. Yeah, that was the best one ever.

Speaker 1: 10:57

Yeah, and then they were like yeah, let's not make her too sexy though. Oh man see that's the shit.

Speaker 3: 10:59

And then they were like, yeah, let's not make her too sexy though. Ah, man see, that's the shit. And then we know Florence Puglin, and that's the thing. It's like, maybe because of spoilers, because you see someone like, damn, scarlett is so fine and beautiful. And Florence Puglin's like, yeah, you know, she's hot. She's hot too, I guess no, no, because at the same time.

Speaker 1: 11:18

She's got that je, it's the face bro, something that it is in the face.

Speaker 3: 11:21

I'm so spoiled. It's like I just ate a delicious sundae fudge with strawberry bananas and all I can this is an apple. The apple's great, it's healthy for you, it's delicious, but I just ate a banana fudge strawberry, with all the knickknacks on it.

Speaker 1: 11:36

Yeah, but look Now the banana fudge. They were like, nah, I don't want to do it no more, it's too expensive, because it's a lot of stuff Banana fudge, the chocolate.

Speaker 3: 11:44

I get it, I get it, I get it or you can just pick this apple up off the tree. Apple and tajin and I'm, like I actually do like apple and tajin.

Speaker 2: 12:03

But, I just finished the banana actually say oh, I'm the next black widow, or her code name is black widow no, does yelena?

Speaker 3: 12:09

is there a yelena in the marvel comics? Yes, is she black widow or she like her own, uh own superpower I think she does think of her name.

Speaker 1: 12:17

Well, it's because black widow is like an organization yeah, black widow, black Widow, it's the Red Room organization or whatever. Hey, what did you like about the movie in the beginning? Damn, that's a hard one. It's not bad, though I mean I'm not going to say it's terrible. Wait, wait wait, wait, shit, hang on Shit.

Speaker 3: 12:34

What's your name? Super hot to this day you asked Tico.

Speaker 1: 12:37

You answered for Tico. You were Answered for him. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 12:39

I was gonna give a shout out To Homegirl from Seinfeld, who plays the villain.

Speaker 2: 12:43

Oh, or I don't know what her name is.

Speaker 3: 12:46

You look beautiful as the day. I saw you From the 90s, homegirl from Seinfeld yeah, still hot the one that's like Pulling all the strings In the back. I bring her up.

Speaker 2: 13:02

Because she was been like kind of like working since yeah, in the background since then, yeah, yeah so she's kind of been introduced and kind of like but again so much eventually she's gonna become like a big character.

Speaker 1: 13:13

I don't know if she's become that big character yet, but you had to watch all the you had to watch a lot of tv series and movies in order to keep up with this one, bro, oh yeah, I mean you had to watch the Black Widow movie to know Yelena's backstory.

Speaker 2: 13:24

It would have helped to also watch Hawkeye to know her struggle, and then Falcon and the Winter Soldier, or Captain America and the Winter Soldier, right.

Speaker 1: 13:32

And then Ant-Man and the Wasp 2.

Speaker 2: 13:35

There's a ghost, oh for ghosts, because where, where those ghosts even come from random at man too, and yeah, it's a man too.

Speaker 1: 13:41

She's a big bad from me. And then that's when you get black widow just for taskmaster for the five minutes which I'm so sad it took, bro I feel bad when she has to go to press release tours and like they're like. So what did you think about working in the film? Oh, so amazing, it was great it flew by for me I mean

Speaker 2: 13:57

the cast is so wonderful. The sit looks so much better this time around. Oh man, they made her so much more comic book accurate and I liked it.

Speaker 1: 14:03

I was excited for her character. Bro me too, even the fact that she had, like, the mask opened up. I'm not here for you. Oh, okay, okay, I fucks with it, pop that's it.

Speaker 2: 14:14

At the same time, everybody was like, oh, they fucked up that character so bad.

Speaker 1: 14:17

I think that's the one backlash that they got about a lot of people it's like, wow, what a way to throw away a comic book a great character.

Speaker 2: 14:22

Yeah, like they finally got him right, but they fucked it up in the first movie that she was in yeah. I mean, it's not so much that it was gender swapped, it was just the fact that they fucked up the character that doesn't even bother me the gender swap right now.

Speaker 3: 14:37

Marvel, there was awesome action scenes where they stay, they fight, uh, multiple henchmen with guns. Like you could have had like a mimic scene where, like captain america is fighting the henchmen and exact same movement, set is taskmaster doing the exact same dance and taking also henchmen and like yeah, and then she like everybody has a fight, but you see, like testament, just copy everybody's fight, like within that seat, like I'm just painting it.

Speaker 2: 15:02

What it would look like if they kept her like was that pop was just unnecessary, to be honest I saw on socials there was a version of the script who knows how true it is, I think where she stayed alive and she has. She has memory problems because of black widow, I think. She has memory problems. Throughout the movie she keeps trying to kill john walker because that was her assignment. Yeah, so they kept like reminding her.

Speaker 1: 15:21

It's like no, we're working together yeah, and like the midst of it they're like it can be like a big-ass gunfight going on. I know whether she's just gonna be like looks over at this, motherfucking, just starts going for him again he's like fuck, not again.

Speaker 2: 15:31

I thought it would have been good for you that would have been hilarious. Another thing one thing that I did like about the movie early on and throughout was the humor. I mean it was funny okay, yeah, okay the humor wasn't cheesy, okay, yes yes, I agree with you.

Speaker 3: 15:44

I don't remember like a cringe, like thor y'all pointed out, thor, there were some thorn boys like oh, kind of cringy comic-y yeah, not the humor work not this one, not, I don't remember me really like uh cringy it worked with the uh the sneeze scene in the hallway.

Speaker 2: 15:59

That was hilarious banter between the characters. Everybody like giving John Walker shit. Like Yelena and Ghost giving John Walker shit.

Speaker 3: 16:05

Oh, in the back of that car. Yeah, bro, that was hilarious. Do you like the cool Do? You think it's cool. Do you think it's cool? I?

Speaker 1: 16:10

mean, yeah, I think it's kind of cool yeah, if you think it's cool. It's cool, I guess, relatable as fuck.

Speaker 3: 16:17

That's fucked. I was like that's fucked up. Yeah, exactly, I was like Just tell them you don't like the hat.

Speaker 1: 16:22

There was a lot of guys in there that fucking, that smacked their lips, bro, when they saw that shit.

Speaker 2: 16:27

They were talking about the gun. It's like, yeah, that's such a big gun.

Speaker 1: 16:31

I mean, and it's kind of big. Bro, it's relatable as shit. Like that was funny. That was really, really funny. What I liked is that they gave you Bob within the first 20 minutes of the film, 20, 30 minutes of the film. You get Bob when they get there the Sentry.

Speaker 2: 16:45

I think that plot twist was kind of like you know, you knew it was like oh well, that's Bob, that's the Sentry.

Speaker 1: 16:51

Yeah, I think there were a lot of people who were just completely oblivious, like you. The hell is this guy.

Speaker 2: 16:57

Well, I guess that's true, you know so in that aspect, yeah, because we go into this comic book with some comic book knowledge.

Speaker 1: 17:02

Absolutely. But if you have no idea, like I've had people be like like. Here's an example when Bucky and Captain the Winter Soldier, when he took off his mask and it was Bucky I legit heard people go in theaters, I was like yo, yo in theaters right now and I was like well, I guess to some people who don't know. You know you give them the credit but or the benefit of the doubt. But it makes me laugh but uh, yeah, but like I said, I like bob's introduction. Bob was one of my favorite.

Speaker 3: 17:30

Him and alexi were my favorite characters in the entire film, bro oh yeah, the red guardian because, like in the movie, they're bringing like, like the sentry's part of the sentry project, because it still is from the captain america project.

Speaker 1: 17:41

Yeah, the super soldier and like when I read that I was like, is it?

Speaker 3: 17:45

and then, yes, in the marvel comics it is. It's just marvel. Marvel goes beyond. We're like an entity from beyond time and space coincidentally fucking merge with them and the cells help them retain that god-like feature that is the century. But they caught, they cut a lot of that, you know, because they do. Marvel does it for the sake of the audience. But that that makes sense. Like how much in the marvel comics and mcu do they? They've revolved around the captain america serum, yeah, like so many villains or heroes like the captain americans here.

Speaker 2: 18:13

Captain americans here yeah, everybody wanted that in the mcu. Like every other villain is like oh, there's just another version.

Speaker 1: 18:19

Yeah it was just something that went wrong.

Speaker 3: 18:21

I mean hope, yeah, absolutely but it makes sense, like even in the marvel comedy, they'll say no, it was a captain, the captain marvel's, the captain america's serum yeah, I can't say that five times fast can't america say I'm, can't mention I'm not gonna, if you were waiting for it I was, uh, revolves around it a lot and I loved it.

Speaker 3: 18:44

I actually do love it. So you know, I take that back. Uh, in regards to them using like whoa, how did the century come about? Just like the comics, the captain american serum, yeah bro yeah, it's just another.

Speaker 2: 18:53

Try out the super soul here.

Speaker 1: 18:54

Yeah, but I like this concept of like, uh, a recovering addict with some deep, dark mental issues which is the theme of the movie right, Loneliness, trauma and they do explain it, because he was never meant to be decent.

Speaker 2: 19:08

They were just prototypes. They were supposed to be throwaway experiments. He just happened to survive. He just happened to survive.

Speaker 1: 19:14

She was like, okay let's work with one guy. Yeah, I got something.

Speaker 2: 19:18

But yeah, the theme of mental health and Trauma.

Speaker 1: 19:22

They touched some dark topics in this film. I will say that they did a good job of doing it. It also worked.

Speaker 3: 19:27

It also worked really well what's her name? Yelena Yelena. Yelena's story herself is something very traumatic about what the Scarlet Widow project was. In Russia they had them hunt down their own friends at a childlike age, which is crazy, like when that dream sequel that remembering sequence of her uh turning in her friend to the woods and they get shot. Yeah, apparently it was the other way around too if she didn't done it, she was next. You know, that's what it is she got called the woods I think it was training to are you, are you like?

Speaker 3: 19:58

I don't know if it's kind of so fucked up kind of training about betrayal, but definitely it's like it teaches you how to like. I guess they're taught not to get attached yeah, these aren't your friends.

Speaker 1: 20:06

This is your target, no target out here. Yeah, absolutely yeah, it's. It's all training based whenever it came to that shit. That's just she said, I'm sorry you know, like it's ain't personal, it's just business, you know yeah I mean, I think, the mental health aspect of the movie, even towards the end.

Speaker 2: 20:18

it's such a big part of the climate Her dealing with alcoholism, bro, her alcoholism, remember.

Speaker 1: 20:22

She was fucking passed out on the floor. Bob was seen with his parents abused downstairs. What else John Walker's? Losing his family? His dealing with his crippling self-image and his ego was deflating. He lost his fucking kids. I'm trying to figure out. Was there anybody else who witnessed her own father's murder? But she was a cold-blooded motherfucker because as soon as she saw that she was like alright, I'm gonna be right back.

Speaker 2: 20:45

But she was the only one who I was gonna take a quick break. Yeah, she wasn't shook like that.

Speaker 3: 20:50

No she was shook. It just really fucked with her.

Speaker 1: 20:53

At least out of everybody, though.

Speaker 3: 20:54

There's three scenes, like there was a scene where they say like we swallow it, we swallow it up, bottle it and we leave it here right, yeah, so like you push it down, you push it down, you push it down, she's an alcoholic, like you see scenes where she's throwing the bathtub drunk out of her mind.

Speaker 3: 21:06

Yeah, so you know what I'm talking about? One of my favorite characters which is, uh, what's his name? The red captain america. Uh, red guardian. The red guardian, like, if you notice his character, his character is a happy-go-lucky, you know, everything's gonna be fine. You know, push through. You know, like, hey, I'm gonna fight captain america one day, which I hope they do it, you know, eventually.

Speaker 3: 21:24

But if you notice, like, if we're talking about trauma, then he is no different. It's just other people's way of how they act on it. You know, like, he reminds you a lot of, like my parents are, you know, immigrants. So, like a lot of the immigrant people handle it that way. It was like, no, you know, back home is worse. You talking about, you know they're starving over there. I'm in America, I got Netflix, you know what do I care? You know, but it shows that at the end of the day, he's probably an alcoholic. We don't know, always working, he never sleeps, you know. So he doesn't want to go to because he doesn't want to face it, because if he sleeps, he knows what. He went through russia russia yeah, it's siberia.

Speaker 2: 22:00

You gotta do the accent I couldn't do it all of it and he's telling you I never sleep.

Speaker 3: 22:04

The only ones that probably got us probably bucky, but bucky himself is like trying to do his wrongs for running for senator. He feels like he's gotta. He's gotta change the world because he was getting electric brain shots bro like he was still getting his own, yeah yeah, like they all have a sense of trauma.

Speaker 2: 22:18

You know, yeah, and we don't need to see much of Bucky's character development because we have already seen it.

Speaker 1: 22:23

Yeah, we have seen a lot of his character development.

Speaker 2: 22:24

Yeah, we have seen his character development already, so I think that's why he played a little bit of a background role in the movie.

Speaker 1: 22:29

Yeah, but Yelena wasn't a bad character. Again, I didn't see that coming. I didn't know that. Florence, you know her name isn't Florence Pugh, it's Pugh yeah, pugh yeah. But I didn't think Florence Pugh was going to be the main character Florence Pugh. And the fact that she was, though, and she did a good job at it.

Speaker 2: 22:46

Yeah, I think it worked.

Speaker 1: 22:48

And.

Speaker 2: 22:48

I mean, that's the best cure for depression and mental health. 5'4" blonde telling you that you're not alone, Bruh, Not even 5'4". She's like 4'9" yeah man, but that would solve my mental health problem Absolutely. Okay, real quick. We haven't talked about Bob.

Speaker 1: 23:07

We haven't talked about Bob enough in the sense of comic book, accurate, like design, fight, all of it he got the suit and whenever he got control of his powers, it worked Like that scene at the top of Avengers Tower. Yeah, the new Avengers Tower, Remodel Avengers Tower.

Speaker 2: 23:19

Yeah, that scene when the whole team takes him on, it was the best action in the film.

Speaker 1: 23:25

I wish we would have got 20, 30 minutes of that instead of 10 minutes. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3: 23:28

Yeah, but we really got to tease on what his capabilities as a sentry are, man.

Speaker 1: 23:35

Like stop time but stop bullet projectiles, something that you said I'm going to be like his black widow to the Hulk you know what I'm saying she's going to be like something real low.

Speaker 1: 23:44

She's going to be that and it only makes sense because she was the most the calm to the most powerful being, it's only going to make sense that the next most powerful being is going to be her sister to calm him down as well. Now, what I think is that shape or form to the very last movie until he's gonna be the MacGuffin, the fucking MacGuffin, the get out of jail free card. Whenever you painted yourself into the corner, they're gonna pull him out and then he's gonna fly in, and because he's so OP, yeah, or also I don't think they're gonna use him again.

Speaker 2: 24:09

I think it's gonna be like he lost his powers he has no access to that.

Speaker 3: 24:16

No, I the second one Endgame. Was it the second one Endgame?

Speaker 1: 24:18

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:19

Where the ship was like about to start, you know, and then suddenly-.

Speaker 1: 24:22

And then, fucking Captain Marvel, cut the ship in half. You know, and you know what? Would you be mad if fucking-. It makes sense. Dr Doom has the Infinity Gauntlet. He's about to one-shot fucking Captain America in the face, ding.

Speaker 3: 24:34

Holds it, breaks it. They Look he's like You're no god.

Speaker 1: 24:38

Bro, that'd be a bar, that'd be a bar.

Speaker 3: 24:41

I can see that. Like he punches with the gauntlet, they collapse. He's powerless now, but we held the punch. Yeah, and then Doctor Doom is like Now equal to everybody. Now the fight begins.

Speaker 1: 24:50

See, look, that's it. That's the shit that's gonna happen. What I know that's for part two, secret Wars, bro, dude and.

Speaker 3: 24:58

Secret Wars, bro dude, and I can see Miles Morales. Maybe they're purposely pushing him back because maybe the secret ending of Doom War I'm going to get ahead of myself is probably Miles Morales in live action.

Speaker 1: 25:08

Bro, what All right? No, I will say the secret ending was dope. It leads into Fantastic Four. But now we already know the ending of Fantastic Four.

Speaker 2: 25:18

Yeah, supposedly it was directed by the Russo brothers.

Speaker 1: 25:20

It was, which I think is amazing, the secret ending. Yeah, the last three-minute ending.

Speaker 2: 25:24

They're already working on the Avengers movie. Yeah, so the secret ending when they see the Fantastic Four ship coming through space was directed by the Rooster Brothers.

Speaker 1: 25:33

Yeah, and I like that chemistry. The way that they were already acting at the end was different in comparison to where they were at in the movie.

Speaker 2: 25:38

It's because they had those directors behind them.

Speaker 1: 25:40

And it's going to be good. Their chemistry bro is going to work, so fucking well.

Speaker 2: 25:44

It's going to work so good. And I think that whole idea of another Civil War, new Avengers versus Avengers, that's going to be cool, that's going to be awesome Again, even the name change the New Avengers, Marvel's reveal when they swept that off all the poster boards.

Speaker 1: 26:00

In other words, if you haven't seen this movie yet, fuck you.

Speaker 2: 26:01

Rick Arden came in with the New Avengers, with the Z. With the Z yeah, the tracksuit with all the sponsors, sweeties, the best side.

Speaker 3: 26:13

New Avengers with the Z, there's no trademark.

Speaker 1: 26:15

Yeah, I sound French, I can't do it. Yeah, I can there for it. But again, it already spoils the ending of what the Fantastic Four film is going to be.

Speaker 2: 26:24

I think the Fantastic Four movie spoils itself Because we know that they're going to come to the main universe.

Speaker 1: 26:31

It makes you think of Captain America. Captain America, remember when the first one came out? It takes place in World War I, World War II era you know he's going to be frozen, yeah, and the question is, how does he make it over here? Oh well, he gets frozen, same shit. It's just like I wonder how they're gonna make it. Oh, just fucking jump reality.

Speaker 2: 26:46

He's like oh they've already done that multi-verse traveling.

Speaker 1: 26:49

We've seen that already at this point, because it's been introduced so many times and like from Doctor Strange, it's only a nominee in another universe.

Speaker 3: 26:59

There's nothing that can stop Galactus. He's like the doomsday it's over. If you look in the trailer so I can imagine they come to our reality, because the only thing that could have stopped it, that they don't have in their reality, is the Sentry.

Speaker 1: 27:12

As an example.

Speaker 3: 27:12

And the Sentry in theory could have stopped Galactus.

Speaker 1: 27:15

Yeah, and then he is a cosmic level being at that point.

Speaker 2: 27:19

So we'll see. We'll see when the Fantastic Four movie comes out. Yeah, I know I'm more excited about Fantastic Four. I was more excited about Fantastic Four than Thunderbolts, bro, but I still saw Thunderbolts opening weekend.

Speaker 1: 27:30

I'm excited for fucking the Doomsday bro. They already started filming. You already seen Shang-Chi's on set?

Speaker 2: 27:37

Mbaku's on set. Oh, channing Tatum is on set. Channing Tatum's on set, is he playing?

Speaker 1: 27:41

Gambit he has to.

Speaker 2: 27:43

Right, yeah, it's a picture. Marvel put it out, bro, they did it. Marvel put it out.

Speaker 1: 27:48

They were all together. They already said they watched the screening of Thunderbolts together and it's the whole squad. Rdj is there.

Speaker 2: 28:04

Paul Rudd is there, bro, they come in here. Hot, I think this day is gonna work. It's gonna be, and I think that's what this is. This is like marvel saying hey, we're getting back to form, we're gonna try to fix this shit together.

Speaker 1: 28:10

They can reset everything here, whatever they fucked up is like secret war is basically where they can reset you know which is the next big film that they're gonna do after that. This is crazy. Yeah, bro, like they can do whatever. Doomsday is gonna be like their next big avengers film, yes, but as far as like a reset secret wars, that's where they can reset anything that they wanted to like, because I've been missing the shangri-pa.

Speaker 2: 28:27

What was that series called? Wasn't the series called? It was so the secret wars 2, which happens in modern day, because I'm like the way that that series just like was such a throwaway plot line well, the original concept was heroes and villains are put on a planet together.

Speaker 1: 28:41

They give the hero, the villains, a year in advance to to do whatever they want with their civilization, with their area and their time, and different villains do different things. So it's like doc ock does one thing, dr doom does another thing and then another villain does another thing. Each one of them rules differently. One's like with an iron fist. One of them doesn't have like fucking any control at all. One, he, just wants to be a regular nigga and one, uh is a tyrant or some shit like that. But ultimately it's to see what really will win good versus evil, and that's when you have those impossible things that happen. Spider-man gets a new suit. He gets the black, uh venom suit, without realizing that it's venom. Yet uh, the hulk yes, you get that iconic uh one where he's holding that mountain.

Speaker 3: 29:17

They're gonna do it doomsday, going to do in Doomsday? Yeah, you think they're going to bring Black Suit Spider-Man? Oh, that's if they were going to do it, but in Doomsday Because obviously Tom Holland will be mentioned.

Speaker 1: 29:29

It's going to be the Battleworld plotline. That's what I'm saying. If they do it, it's supposed to take place in Battleworld. If they do it, that's the one time Deadpool and you know, whoever?

Speaker 3: 29:39

That'd be tough to bring Deadpool though.

Speaker 1: 29:41

Deadpool's going to be the hardest, bro. Ryan Reynolds is expensive man. Marvel owns him, bro. At this point his career is just hanging on by a thread because of the whole Blake Lively shit at this point as far as working.

Speaker 3: 29:50

That's crazy man. He was to the top of the world.

Speaker 2: 29:51

I think they could probably offer him less money now.

Speaker 1: 29:53

Absolutely, he's going to have to take, but at the end of the day, dog, have you even seen those likes on social media? Their likes aren't even what they were, bro. The views aren't even what they were, bro. He was getting like a million likes per post after Deadpool 3, dog, now 250,000 likes he lost some name recognition yeah bro that really hurt him.

Speaker 1: 30:10

Yeah, it really hurt him, and all because of his wife. Not even him, bro. Not even him. That's what I'm saying. He should have Anyway. Yeah, man, we feel it that's all. If y'all want to hear more about that shit. Let us know, We'll tell you guys all about it.

Speaker 2: 30:25

One take on the Entenables movie that I had was this whole marketing thing.

Speaker 3: 30:29

They changed the name.

Speaker 2: 30:30

Yeah, the asterisk was meant to be like. Hey, this is not the real name. The real name is the New Avengers. The New Avengers. That's the real name of the movie. I think it's a cool marketing scheme, but at the same time it's a marketing ploy that came up with the idea. It's like we don't really believe in this movie, so let's try to come up with some marketing ploy to try to really push it. Not only that, because they spoiled it, it came out Thursday. By Sunday they had already started doing that.

Speaker 1: 30:56

Changed the name of the posters.

Speaker 2: 30:57

Yeah, so it was like. This is kind of like spoilery. You didn't expect that many people to watch the movie, so you came in with a marketing ploy to push the movie after the fact.

Speaker 1: 31:08

I'll be honest, I think they would have held off on it if it broke $100 million domestically, but I think it only broke like $78 million and they're like all right, go ahead get the reveal Rip that bandaid.

Speaker 2: 31:17

Because they, you know so I don't know, I think that's, I think that's fine. That's my take on that's not an outrageous statement and the movie ended up making 78, which is above projections. Yeah, it's like more than they thought it was gonna make, correct? But which one was the one before this? Uh, snow white captain america.

Speaker 1: 31:41

Yeah, how much did that one make? Uh, not enough.

Speaker 2: 31:44

I'm joking, I have no idea, unfortunately, well, they expected it not to perform as good as that one. Yeah, and it did.

Speaker 1: 31:49

It did, but, granted, it took a whole squad and you know that one took Harrison Ford. So I mean, it's the same thing. You put all the talent together. I'm joking In conclusion.

Speaker 2: 31:59

In conclusion, conclusion.

Speaker 1: 32:02

Conclusion what do you guys, hard seven, solid seven, wait for it on disney plus?

Speaker 3: 32:06

I'm in the same place, I'm in the same boat, exactly. I got a hard seven the sequences that the movie is like you can tell, especially when bucky showed up that one scene he shows us with the uh, with the canon. Yeah, he saves everybody. There's literally episode four of this eight part series you know I would have watched it, yeah it's like you can tell this this thing was built, that hair, uh, if it didn't work out, we can release it in series. You know, true, but right then, and there?

Speaker 1: 32:31

That's how the episode ended was. Oh, and then the trailer hits Pretty much what.

Speaker 3: 32:36

I've done.

Speaker 1: 32:38

The.

Speaker 3: 32:38

Starcast is great, but they're like A-level celebrities, because there's A-plus level celebrities and then there's A. You know it's mixed in there. There's a known celebrity, florence Pugh is A right now, because there's A plus level.

Speaker 1: 32:49

So then there's A. You know it's mixed in there. You know Florence Pugh is A right now because she's everywhere, so is the Red Guardian.

Speaker 2: 32:54

I give her Red Guardian. I definitely went back and watched Oppenheimer over again absolutely, because her scene of the pot pivotal.

Speaker 1: 33:00

You know what I'm saying pivotal it made sense, don't believe me.

Speaker 3: 33:04

I feel like he elevated to A status.

Speaker 1: 33:06

Killian Murphy said it himself. It's pivotal to the plot.

Speaker 3: 33:09

It's the only reason I wanted to watch it. So, yeah, I gave it a hard 7. There were so many moments like the sentry fight, the tease of the fight, I guess, the maintenance of the void. Obviously they couldn't defeat the void, so they had to get into his head and be like I get by with a little help from my friends. I get by with a little help from my friends, like the Beatles.

Speaker 2: 33:28

I thought it was cool that Bucky was able to kind of beat them all. Yeah, you know, he was able to capture the whole Thunderbolt.

Speaker 1: 33:33

Yeah, but the Sentry.

Speaker 2: 33:35

But he, you know he's able to capture all the other ones.

Speaker 1: 33:38

He did exactly what Bucky actually ended up doing, so remember whenever he originally started. He's like tie yourselves up. And and then when you see it the next time, they're all tied up.

Speaker 1: 33:45

And I was like man that was hilarious, but no, what I did enjoy about this film was the fact that it did have more family themed around it. You know what I'm saying, like the family friend concept. We've seen a bunch of Avenger films and they're all good friends, but I haven't seen the team building camaraderie like the way I did in this film, where everybody's overcoming trauma together and even when the Scarlet Witch hit everybody with their own traumatic shit, nobody worked through it together Like they all were like oh God, it was awful.

Speaker 2: 34:10

I saw visions. They all split up and they're trying to fix it on their own, but nobody. Thor goes on a fucking vision quest.

Speaker 1: 34:15

Yeah, he's like fuck this, Screw you guys, I'm going home, yeah he goes on a vision quest and that's it, like Thor or Hulk, you know, has his own panic attack and does his own thing, but anyway. So yeah, like I said, this was a real family aspect of the film and I enjoyed it. It was good in that, so that's why I'm going to give it. I'm not going to shit on it. It's not a bad movie but a hard seven because, like I said, it could have been. I could have waited till Netflix to watch it or Disney+.

Speaker 2: 34:41

I'm not going to shit on this movie anymore.

Speaker 1: 34:44

Anymore but.

Speaker 2: 34:46

Family. I also give it a hard seven. I'm in line, we're all in line in this one Hard seven. Wait for it on Disney Plus if you haven't watched it or you know, go watch it if you got like one of those unlimited.

Speaker 1: 34:57

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Speaker 2: 35:07

Yes, sir, I love that. Tiki, do you have any takes on the movie?

Speaker 1: 35:10

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Speaker 3: 35:27

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Speaker 2: 35:39

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Speaker 3: 35:40

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Speaker 2: 35:42

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Speaker 3: 35:57

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Speaker 1: 36:00

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