WBM Podcast aka Witty Banter Media
The Three Best Bros anybody could have (feat. Oski, xFer, and Merc) sit down and go into all sorts of topics while also diverging into wild content. Anime! Pop culture, video games, movies, books, science fiction and actual science. Nothing is safe from the Witty Banter Media treatment. Every episode tends to take an unexpected left turn, so listener discretion advised. However, follow along and you will see they always bring it back full circle. Do not take the WBM Podcast team too seriously because they will never be above a witty joke!
WBM Podcast aka Witty Banter Media
Concert Crushes, Legendary Bands, and The Evolving Lore of Star Wars
Remember the time you had a concert crush at a T-Pain show? Relive our sizzling summer as we recount our unforgettable T-Pain concert experience, complete with mesmerizing LED backdrops, nostalgic vibes, and some surprising youthful energy. From personal stories of concert crushes to our favorite merch purchases, this episode is a celebration of music and memories. We also draw parallels with classic acts like Earth, Wind & Fire, and discuss the unique atmosphere of reggae shows, comparing the intimacy and energy of these experiences with larger rock and pop concerts.
Ever wondered why some legendary bands still have that magical pull? Join us as we stroll down memory lane, reflecting on iconic performances and the unique vibes of reggae concerts. Despite the occasional rough performance, like Journey’s, legendary songs like "Don't Stop Believing" continue to captivate. We also touch on the resurgence of bands like Linkin Park, exploring how new lead singers are keeping these legacies alive. This chapter is a heartfelt nod to the emotional connections fans hold dear for music legends.
Curious about the evolution of the Force in Star Wars? We explore George Lucas's original vision and how it has morphed over time with Disney’s influence, touching on enchanting lore elements like Yoda’s wisdom and Darth Plagueis. We discuss the implications of Disney’s acquisition on storytelling and the portrayal of characters such as Twi'leks. From the choreography of lightsaber duels to the complex narratives in "The Acolyte," we dissect how the franchise has evolved and what makes classic battles like the Duel of the Fates timeless. Don't miss our wrap-up where we show our heartfelt appreciation for your support and encourage you to keep the conversation going on social media. Peace!
good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning into the wbm podcast. This is one of your hosts.
Speaker 2:It's your boy, murk yo good to see everybody here again. This is your boy x-fan and this is your boy, tico in the mix guys, we got one fun episode, we got a little recap of our summer man, because we're pushing forward through the winter arc, so we want to talk about everything that we did do, we didn't do and things we missed out on throughout the episodes this summer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely so, guys, get ready for some Spitfire. Just let it weigh your money.
Speaker 2:Mike. So are you guys ready? That's right, bro, then Blunty's Park.
Speaker 3:It's time for our next let's go All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:Booty go up Down, ain't got no problem spending all of my money trying to see what's up.
Speaker 1:No, ain't got no problem spending. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:We saw T-Pain back in like early. Oh yeah, we did see T-Pain this summer. I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, it may right.
Speaker 1:It was a dope concert.
Speaker 3:It was a while back, but it was in the summer.
Speaker 1:It was the summer.
Speaker 2:What was the name of the tour called the Teddy Payne. No, no, no Wisconsin.
Speaker 1:The Mansion in Wisconsin. The Mansion in Wisconsin.
Speaker 3:His backdrop was LED screens and it was a mansion.
Speaker 2:It was a mansion in Wisconsin.
Speaker 1:How, each like every time you went into a room in the mansion, it changed the mansions and it gave you a different atmosphere to match the song.
Speaker 3:Every song kind of switched the mansion but you were always technically in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's the idea.
Speaker 1:I love that shit. This guy bought some merch.
Speaker 2:I bought some merch.
Speaker 1:I got me a sick-ass baseball jersey Wisconsin. I got me a dope-ass Wisconsin hat with number 24 for the year.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Homegirl. I met at the concert. I fell in love with you. I texted you Good morning, buenos dias. You know, that's why I didn't Spanish. You probably thought it was your garden or something.
Speaker 1:Whatever, man Damn solicitors. I hate this shit.
Speaker 3:But, he was over here thinking you were supposed to be his next wife. You know what I'm saying. I was thinking. I was thinking I can put you in the log in the cabin.
Speaker 2:Hey, where all the way when scans that's right, baby.
Speaker 1:But uh, yeah, no man, this guy came out of nowhere with the, with the riz. You just started just with this it was.
Speaker 2:It was t-pain bro, it was t-pain the vibe.
Speaker 1:It was like a wedding party.
Speaker 2:It was like a bachelor party yeah which is cool. That's a great bachelor party, if you think about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man T-Pain.
Speaker 2:Carson concert for your bachelorette party. That's kind of cool. And the venue wasn't that bad too. It was like a three-story venue and we were at the floor ground, but the floor ground was perfect. You can see T-Pain perfect.
Speaker 1:And if we're showing our age? Hell, no, we're not Bro. Everybody likes T-Pain. I don.
Speaker 3:To be honest, I thought I wasn't going to see that many younger people. Bro, he sold it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, he sold it out.
Speaker 1:That's what I was like. Damn T-Pain still sold out the show. Let's go, T-Pain still got it.
Speaker 2:He had the hits man.
Speaker 3:I thought he was only on Twitch nowadays. Nah bro Motherfucker, still goes on tour. The bills come up.
Speaker 1:He just goes on. I got to pay taxes.
Speaker 2:All right, let me go do a quick tour I get to pay taxes, bro and I know he doesn't mind just going there and be like I get the bartender and then he just points the microphone at the crowd.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, we finish off the rest yeah absolutely, it's like I do. It was a good concert though, awesome.
Speaker 2:I never seen Tupac live. It was dope the, it was everything like what a club was back in like a decade ago. I mean, it was legit man. It was like nostalgic. Yeah it was very. I know what the old head used to go to, like Wind and Fire, you know, but I still go to Wind and Fire. Pretend I'm there in the 70s, you know, do you remember? Hey, hey, the very first night.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing about concerts 21st night. I think we're just in time for the 21st night of the show.
Speaker 2:That's probably the podcast night one. Like I know we had this conversation earlier with Merc private, but it was about concerts and nostalgia. I recently just went to go see the Wailers Bob Marley's group. You know Pajamas, pajamas and like go check out the episode we did about the Bob Marley movie. That. Merc reviewed oh man I finally watched it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, so, yeah, so I saw there was just two dudes left. It was one guy like the back I don't need to ask you for his name, I don't gonna start lying to you and there was two guitarists, you know.
Speaker 1:See, look at least he's not lying to you. That's what I'm saying right, and.
Speaker 2:And then there was, like this drummer from the 80s they found, and like the two, the two lady backup singers they're hot, bro, they're super hot, and uh, and then there was, like the one who was the main singer of, like he was just a dude that sounded like bob marley. But if you had told me, if I closed my eyes and pretended, bro, like the energy was there, the vibes was there, it's just two guitarists left, the whalers, you know, and like bob marley's, like nephew playing the bass, like great, great nephew and bro, they played this called the Legend Source. It was the Legend album, so they played like Stir it Up, they played.
Speaker 1:Jamming If y'all got the Legend album or if y'all haven't heard it. Bro, it's as great as it is.
Speaker 2:The third song is literally what do you call it? Don't Worry it. What do you call it? Don't worry. Oh yeah, it's the third song.
Speaker 1:They know it's just fucking playing. They don't play. They don't fuck around With the legend.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they don't bro, you gotta respect the classics.
Speaker 1:It's all gas.
Speaker 2:You know what's badass About reggae concerts? Like they're small, tiny venues, compared to when we saw the T-Pain, which was massive.
Speaker 1:Right right.
Speaker 2:So anybody's like secondhand smoke is there, it is the way, so they started this trend. So there's like people that were there like probably saw that stuff in the 60s and the 70s, like that, that generation you know, and all the way down to like you kids, the skeevy generation you know, just like rolling up, blazing, you know, playing, jamming in the name of the song. That was the best song is the one that get up, stand up, hey don't give up the fight that one had the crowd like, especially when he goes.
Speaker 2:I was ready to just take my shirt off, bro, and started like call me check him out, bro, you know. But at the end I was getting into it.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I'm getting into it. Dreadlocks shaking yeah bro.
Speaker 2:Everything, everything bro.
Speaker 1:You don't have dreadlocks, I would buy the hat. You know the hat that has the dreadlocks. Anyway, all generation bro.
Speaker 2:I knew there was a corporate guy next to me but he was going off just like me.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. Why are you? And the weather was great, man, it was a great concert. I could hold two hours and I guess the guitarists were just like that generation. They're holding it down. But two-hour concert, man, it was worth it, man. So I know it wasn't Bob Marley, but I pretended that I was there back in the 60s and, man, it's two-way. Okay, great, I saw one beat on. Okay, great, I saw one beat on. I lost my mind.
Speaker 3:You know, that's true, and uh, and especially a concert, like I can go watch journey. I'm saying a lot of bands seem like they're doing that because some of these bands from back in the day are still touring and some of them are still making music, I mean, and you don't lose the name because the name is popular, of course, absolutely so.
Speaker 1:You keep touring with the name, like you went to a journey concert well, I was supposed to go to the journey concert, so we had plans to go originally to the to journey. We didn't get a chance to go, do it right, okay, so that being said, my parents went in my place right and that was supposed to be an awesome experience, man, but they told me about the full recap and I'm like what happened and I'm under the impression my parents are really going to enjoy journey, man this is their era.
Speaker 1:This is their time. They're like they were. They were rough and I'm like what do you mean rough? They were like they didn't do a sound check. Guitarist and and the vocalists were fighting over each other.
Speaker 2:Uh it was rough man like it was.
Speaker 1:It was a really really rough experience. I was like really, and they were like, yeah, but uh, what was it? Uh, def leppard killed it. I was like, really, I was like that's, that's who you were hyped for and def leppard, but they said that their, their, their performance was on point, like that was peak. But the drummer was, you know, obviously he he's uh, he's disabled and you know, he's still up there, uh, producing out an amazing sound, amazing music up there with those guys.
Speaker 3:But, um, they're just older, it's just a much older crowd and generation that's going up there right and they have to replace the vocalist because he doesn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a totally different guy now and and apparently from what I heard is that he was struggling to hit some of the notes, man losing his breath, not getting everything out. It was, it was a rough performance. So in that moment that's when I realized my parents like you, don't go for the concerts again because it's Journey.
Speaker 3:I mean Journey ain't had a song on the radio we're talking about for the 70s, right, you have to be there. You have to be there in 84, bro, they haven't been on the radio for 40 years. Right, that was 50 years ago or 40 years ago. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like they haven't been on the radio in a while. You go for what they used to be the karaoke bars. Yeah, for those moments that you get on stage.
Speaker 3:you know that you really get into it Because I mean, I'm sure they start playing. Don't Stop Believing, yeah. The whole crowd is singing that you rap with. Don't Stop Believing.
Speaker 2:Hold on to that feeling. Yeah, I know it's hard. Everybody stays for that.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Like that's the reason I forgive him. I get it, You're not.
Speaker 2:The cocaine has really Cocaine is a hell of a drug. Rick James did it best. I'm there for the energy, for the experience.
Speaker 1:Damn hey bro.
Speaker 3:I feel like a lot of bands are doing it because it's been so long. Did you guys see that Linkin Park is making a comeback.
Speaker 1:Linkin Park has their new lead singer out and what do? You guys think about it and may.
Speaker 2:May god rest uh you know so uh, rest in peace. Yes, uh, but I was. I can't wait to the. I see the houston lineup, bro, where they go.
Speaker 1:I think she's really good, I'm gonna going to cry thinking about it bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to go check it out. Some people are talking about, well, they should just start a new band. But it's like, well, I mean, all the bandmers are still there, they just have to get a new vocalist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro. In addition, you can't build the same legacy of what Linkin Park is like on your own brand new, without Chester, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I think on that, you know, they can still get the name of the band, they can still find a new vocalist.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And she's not going to try to be Chester.
Speaker 1:No, she's definitely doing her own thing, but it's a good, but it still sounds like Linkin Park. It's a good homage to what Chester originally interpreted.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying Because the whole band you know and the fans that love lincoln park yeah no, I get it. And it's tough, bro, because there's like only few band members can like escape that stuff like uh david growl from nirvana real quick.
Speaker 1:Uh, I do want to say shout out, to rip to some some of, uh, our iconic actors that passed away, man uh, james rowe jones, that was okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kurt Cobain, yeah, boom, yeah, so yeah, so yeah, let's dive, there. Sorry, that was a hard left.
Speaker 1:Hey bro, Real quick. I just want to say, because we're talking about legends, right, Like nostalgia, these things- that they developed over time.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. Did you see the tribute that they did at the Empire State Building?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Darth Vader bro Empire State Building for that night was really the Empire. That was awesome Buzz Barf. I think I was already on Twitter.
Speaker 1:If not tweet the shit. I think.
Speaker 2:I did a video next.
Speaker 3:It's so crazy to think that he was the voice of Darth Vader.
Speaker 1:His moves that really influenced my life. Yeah, man Mufasa, but it's an iconic voice. He was also the bad guy from Conan.
Speaker 2:Conan oh, that's right, conan the Barbarian, conan the Barbarian, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember I see that movie child. The first time I saw Conan like rated R was, of course not in the US, was in Mexico, there's nothing to do with that, so you saw it in. Spanish, and so Earl Jones was a dub. It was a dub voice actor, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Did he dub it in Spanish? Yes, in Spanish? Yeah, but his voice? No, not Earl Jones it like muchacho.
Speaker 2:You know he's talking to Conan, so. But then I heard like his voice. I was like damn, that's a deep voice. And so he sounds like Vader. That's just me growing up, like in between. He's like oh, that is Vader. And I'm like oh shit, and I realized who is James Earl Jones.
Speaker 3:You know, oh man, that's so cool, but that was it was always cool to see him whenever he did cameos related to like star wars.
Speaker 2:He did rogue one when he did with not her. Find out that james earl jones came back and did rogue one, vader, I lost my shit to get him like hey, bro, I know you're retired, and I gave him the five he only had a couple lines, but he still did rogue one dude, it was great.
Speaker 3:It was a peak vader, you know it was yeah and now, and I feel like for future projects, if they're gonna bring back vader and it going to have to be Hayden Christensen.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:It's going to have to be that voice which I think worked in the Obi-Wan series.
Speaker 2:I mean you can just AI, you know, but the feeling Hayden is an actor so he can get the mmm out of it.
Speaker 3:You still need that gravitas that they bring to the character.
Speaker 2:But you can just AI it. You can just be like, alright, I'm going to, but give me that.
Speaker 3:Have Hayden Christensen take over. I think it would be like a good passing the torch kind of thing.
Speaker 1:You know it would be cool if they, because you remember how, already in Obi-Wan, they overlaid both of their voices.
Speaker 2:What if they did that for a little bit more and then?
Speaker 1:eventually it faded out less like the AI for a little bit, and then eventually it goes straight over to Hayden.
Speaker 2:I like that. I like that you're right, because you you've memorized Earl Jones forever. Like bro. You just can't get it, bro, like I get AI, but that's James Earl.
Speaker 1:Jones and then for younger like his voice got jacked, the voice mic got jacked or something that makes sense well he died for younger.
Speaker 3:I mean they recognize Hayden Christensen as our Vader more than anybody else yeah. So I think that would work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I think that would work too. I think that would be great.
Speaker 1:Especially because Hayden Christensen is open for it right now. But did you hear him at the Hugh McGregor star speech or like whenever he got this Hollywood star? Yeah, how he was. Just like I hope we get more Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Speaker 3:And I'm like, oh, bro, for another project they canceled what was that show the Acolyte. Oh, I actually finally watched the Acolyte, was it as?
Speaker 1:terrible, as everybody said. No, I actually. So you were cool with the headbutt and the sabers and like the old school, like Flying Tiger, hidden Dragon.
Speaker 2:They did that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's Crouching Tiger, hidden Dragon? Not really, I don't think it deserves all the hate that he's getting. Okay, okay sell it for me, bro okay, so the acolyte is based in the high republic period, so he's a hundred years before, uh, you know the skywalker saga. Uh, so it's a different time now. A couple things that you have to kind of know. Going into it start with a lot of established lore. Yeah, the acolyte is gonna ignore all of it, not all of it I'm hating on it hey that's it.
Speaker 3:That's the social media, hey you're right, that's the social media. Hey, you're right. Uh, it's gonna ignore a lot of lore, but it's not gonna ignore a lot of it and it sets up some really good concepts. Like it sets up some really good concepts about what a jedi is, about what, uh, what a corrupt Jedi is, or what's the right path for a Jedi. It really sets up some really good concepts. Oh, that's interesting. Most people were mad about this Force cult like a coven of witches.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the witches, space witches, they can create life.
Speaker 3:They created life out of nothing.
Speaker 2:No, there is witches in Star Wars.
Speaker 3:There's the Nightsisters which they get a mention they're like Nightsisters. It's like no well, nightsisters, don't take care of junglings.
Speaker 2:No, they rob them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so there is a reference to the Nightsisters.
Speaker 2:So these are different people from them.
Speaker 3:That's not what this is. It's not the Nightsisters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because the Force is like. Anybody can use the Force.
Speaker 2:Not anybody, not anybody, well, not anybody, but but this specific people are like because the universe is so vast, and that's the thing. What people really don't like about catholic canady is like there's too many humans because the universe is diverse. So, like the nice sisters, they look like zombie bitches, right, or but that's the thing is like among them, a specific few can like use it for up to the level of uh, what's his name? Darcidius, you know. Up to that high level they can use it, right. So that's one of the things they don't like about catholic and he's like too many humans.
Speaker 2:There's too like and this is a point about the empire is like the empire wanted humans. They're like the ss and if the galaxy was all kind of like uh, goofy looking monsters from the 70s. If you walk into that bar that luke walked in and they look like vampires and fucking the bug and shit. But if he's not this new series, he was like there's too many humans. Even the one with the Andor you know Andor's painting, that concept, that like. That's the problem with the empire Like suddenly there's too many humans. You know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pay attention to that. You're right yeah.
Speaker 2:That's the.
Speaker 1:Thing.
Speaker 2:There's stuff like that. The reason they hit on it is not just because of Acolyte, but because of the one who touches it, which is Catherine Candy, because she does a habit of doing that, like she ruins the lore that's already been written. It was like hitting Christendom is Anakin and Anakin sealed the story Like it looped it, but Homegirl was like nah, fuck that, you know, homegirl.
Speaker 3:Wants to go back into it, and that's what I'm saying. The acolyte does ignore a lot of the lore and you could kind of tell the parts it's like. Well, this is being made by people that don't know star wars yeah, exactly it's, it's. You see it in the writing and you see it in the directing.
Speaker 1:Almost yeah, like the interviews, the way they're using the force.
Speaker 3:The force is all of a sudden magic you know yes which is not. They kind of abuse it a little bit too much.
Speaker 2:Which forces Buddhism, because he's the guy I mean. Lucas is a Buddhist, so there's no yin. When you're yang, you use both. That's what he tries to get at you. Because, Yoda was dumb To a degree. Yoda fucked up. He was too good. There was no balance.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, otherwise, you know, they touch upon the balance because it's kind of planting seeds for what the Skywalker saga is. So I do kind of see where the story was meant to go, because this idea that they created life out of nowhere, that they created these twins out of the force. You see, there's an Easter egg in the very last episode where you see a dark figure and I think they're supposed to be dark turrets.
Speaker 2:You know you read the stories online. Plagueis, Darth Plagueis, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Darth Plagueis. Yeah, plague is darth plague. I'm sorry. Yeah, that plague is. And that's who? Uh, who defeated death or who could create life? Oh, yeah, that's the guy, and uh that that goes into the whole theory that, uh, this is how he figured it out, kind of that anakin was uh conceived from the force.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah no, I get it because they're gonna like use that he's like. Oh, so they were going to use that storyline. Because Darth Plagueis, the main bad guy in Star Wars. He's an evil space wizard. So the wizard part is he'll use alien wizardry. So to Plagueis, he'll go meet the witches. How do y'all do that shit? All right, let me learn. And he just say I I'm guessing he brought in.
Speaker 1:That would make sense. That's how they introduced that concept of bringing life from the Force in the Acolyte and then they expanded that in Dark Plague. Obviously that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Well, and then the reason they got a lot of hate is like well, if this witchess could do it, then anybody could consume life from the Force. But it's not. I don't think they quite did it like that, because they explained it a little more forces throughout the universe, but there are spots in the universe where force is like stronger.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I think they call it a convergence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:In this planet there's a convergence of the force, and in this particular specific planet, that's where this force cult. That's what they call it. And I think that also makes sense that big-ass universe, there will be all these smaller force cults that are living in Hagenin that are doing are using the force in their own way. Yeah, Like what they call it. They don't call it the force. The witches they talk about pull on the thread. You know nobody uses the thread, you can only pull it a certain way.
Speaker 3:They're not using the force, they're pulling the threat so I mean they got a whole they got a whole, not a take on the force, which probably threw a lot of people off and the fact that it's not you know, the fact that it's the kind of like not even paying attention to too much of the lore and just establishing new lore. It kind of probably like put off a lot of people, but if you ignore some of that, they won't. I think the show actually sets up a lot of cool concepts. The villain itself, the villain, is the best part of the show.
Speaker 3:Homeboy with the helmet right, the stranger and, yes, head-butting lightsabers. I actually think that's pretty fucking cool. The helmet is made of, uh, corotite, uh-huh. Uh, it interferes with lightsaber, uh, that's fucking insane, okay.
Speaker 1:So okay, introducing that concept, but without knowing that and just seeing it. You know, like if, because, like when I saw that if that's how, if that's how people were trying to get you to get a bad taste on it with, obviously without giving you out of context- I. I'm like that looks dumb In the Star Wars universe it's the savers, and the savers fail right, yeah, like, immediately, just like.
Speaker 3:But it's because the metal that the helmet is made of interferes with the crystal, with the kyber energy or whatever, and that's a sensory helmet. You know the helmets that they use to train the padawans that you're not able to see or hear. That's a sensory helmet that you're not able to see or hear.
Speaker 2:He actually talks about the helmet another thing that they don't like is because there's already so many written lore and books like where to go from Star Wars, like at the end of star wars. The movie ends like the original the, with with uh, anakin prime, like he defeated the darth vader. He defeated, like that's anakin prime, but then you don't get to see.
Speaker 2:I mean a luke prime you don't get to see a luke prime, but there are books like where it continues from there, like uh, before the whole darth maul, it was a girl who they actually called the acolyte, which is the twilight, the one with the, with the thing, yeah well in the entire series.
Speaker 2:They're always sex slaves. That's what they always are like they. They saw that again the star wars are sold out to the side, or they look sexy, and even the one with, uh, with the big slug, java, yeah, that they're chilling and sexy because they're sex slaves, even the male ones, and like, well, they're sort of the opposite, right.
Speaker 3:So Twi'lek ended up becoming Hopefully, and the Twi'lek well, it depends. We're going to Star Wars books that you've been reading, the original ones, yeah, the original ones and in it the Twi'lek became a Sith, became the Acolyte.
Speaker 2:She became the next one, the next one like Big Bad, and then before that, there's this bigger one, which is like all these Mandalorians, like they go, fuck it. They start invading half the galaxy and then like, but nobody's paying attention because, like, among them is one Mandalore that has the black blade Right and he's leading the crusade, like to covering Jedi versus the Republic, versus all these Mandalorians. That's the one that people really wanted to see, because that happens in between. That leads to this one major character called Raven, and Raven is supposed to be like as big as, not as stronger than, vader, because he goes bad to good and good to bad. Like they really wanted Keanu Reeves to play because he's like Keanu.
Speaker 3:Reeves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he looks like Keanu Reeves apparently, but that one is a better story because that was like all the Mandalorians go full war versus all the Jedi go full wars with the Republic. It's like a three-way fight. Man, that's cool. That was what happened before.
Speaker 3:That leads to Vader, you know that leads to Anakin, but that's the one people really wanted because it's a whole story to that and it sucks because both of those storylines that he's talking about they ended up going to Star Wars. What are they called Legends of those storylines that he's talking about? They ended up being going to Star.
Speaker 2:Wars. What are they called? Legends, Legends, Star Wars Legends?
Speaker 3:It was all that lore that was all over the place because throughout the years people just wrote books without like connecting them.
Speaker 2:No, no, they're connected. They are approved by George Lucas. The thing is that Catherine Candy was the one that was like nah, fuck this disney bottom.
Speaker 3:Before disney bottom there were like multiple storylines and people would just write they were approved by look of film, but people would just write storylines without really connecting them no, they're, they're connected, they're all connected all the way to like what happens right after like after one.
Speaker 2:This is general that comes out after the generals of twilight leads on. So there's more to it and they're all like approved by george yeah, but there are more like that's why.
Speaker 3:That's why they have to get rid of it, but that's the thing about Kathy.
Speaker 2:Kathy Kennedy was like nah, like she really out-canned a lot of it, or actually the whole thing Disney in general.
Speaker 1:But mostly Kathy Kennedy, the one that South Park made fun of. Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. I'm like if you guys know what we're talking about. We're not checking it, so that all went to Star Wars Legends.
Speaker 2:And what sucks? Original movie luke prime. There's all these comic books that continue the storylines. Yeah, yeah, that's a good story for vader because it's like when vader was hunting down the jedis and stuff or whatever. Like this whole comics on vader, just fucking shit up there's a whole comic we run, obi one, kenobi.
Speaker 3:That's really good. Uh, when obi-wan and anakin was a padawan oh, there's all these storylines. I give it a little more background, but it's hard because then they have to be connected. But now it's all part of the lore, you know, and nobody has time to read all the comic books. So all, all the books are coming out.
Speaker 1:I've seen one like one particular page from one of the comic books from star Wars and I thought it was one of the most gangsta ones I've seen. It's a Darth Vader on Tatooine again and he's like we have you surrounded, darth Vader.
Speaker 2:He's like.
Speaker 1:I'm surrounded by dead men. Oh, I'm surrounded by fear, oh and dead men. That's what it is. I'm surrounded by fear.
Speaker 2:And dead men. That's what it was.
Speaker 3:I was like dead men, dead men, dead men no, but I actually recommend the acolyte for star wars fans all right, I gotta check it out go into it like skeptical because you might not like it so low expectations low expectations. But if you're going to like I myself, I believe that social media hype I was like, oh, this, this is gonna be some like work show about, uh, lesbian space witches that's what I'm under the impression of.
Speaker 2:Yes, I saw that part but the the force called star wars four or five.
Speaker 3:Well, the Force Cult is part of the story, it's not. It doesn't you only spend one episode with the Spade Witches?
Speaker 1:Oh, that's it. Yeah, oh, bro, they made it seem like that happened every episode no, no, no, you only spend one episode.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's just references flashbacks or whatever, yeah, well, that episode is one big flashback to, to, to the witches. Oh, the witches happened in the past oh yeah man, you're dealing with the consequences of that disaster that happened oh, social media, hold them dog, no bro and again the the lightsaber fights are really good are they fast-paced like old-school shit? No, I'm not going to lie, it's not duel of the fates, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean nothing's going to compare to duel of the fates. But, it's a good take on lightsaber fights.
Speaker 2:I just want to know.
Speaker 3:Andor, bro, Andor was so peak bro, do you want to know why?
Speaker 2:Star Wars is coming back.
Speaker 1:I cannot wait. Do y'all want to know why Star Wars lightsaber fights aren't so peak anymore?
Speaker 2:Everybody doesn't.
Speaker 1:Well, because they changed the lightsabers. They actually put like LED lightsabers now I forgot what the fuck they're called, but they're like, they have batteries and they're fully functioning.
Speaker 2:That's how they get the proper lighting on the 70s one, the one where they had invader looks even cooler well, no those were actual duels too.
Speaker 3:You know, yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, well what?
Speaker 1:hayden christensen talks about that. He's just like, well, he's like the reason why we're so able to go so hard in our fucking, our fight scenes? Because they're, they're poly, uh, urethane fucking oh, that's just plastic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they're plastic, they're plastic swords. And then cgi and they could beat the shit.
Speaker 1:All right, fuck, it gets a new one that weighs you know a fraction of the weight from the the new ones now, so they were actually able to compete and do real combat shit versus. They're like, all right, we're gonna do 400 takes. Would you swing around this fucking this? Uh, this 20 pound, uh, lightsaber, have fun like no, it's not gonna work, you know.
Speaker 1:So that's why I didn't know that yeah when you think about it, when you go back, and that's what they even talk about, I think it was, um, the obi-wan and anakin fight in uh three. Um, yeah, in episode three they had to slow down that fight in order for the camera to catch everything, oh, or the obi-wan moves in episode one they had to slow down. I'm sorry, that's the scene I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that scene, yeah yeah, it was going so damn fast, so fucking fast. You couldn't see it on the video that's what I want to see.
Speaker 1:yeah, that's when they're gangsters, fuel and fate still going into the day. Yeah, I'll give it to them.
Speaker 3:You know, but, yeah man
Speaker 2:that's what we did this summer. That's really the number one thing I can like.
Speaker 3:We're going to her fall arc, so we'll bring more adventures.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah man.
Speaker 3:I'll bring that around. She'll be coming around the mountain when she comes After the MDA.
Speaker 1:After the MDA Facts, bro.
Speaker 3:What else did we do this summer?
Speaker 2:Your mom Sideways.
Speaker 3:I guess we didn't mean to talk about Star Wars for that long, but as soon as you bring it up.
Speaker 2:It's like Lord Star Wars by about Star Wars for that long but as soon as you bring it up, it's like Lord Star Wars. By the way, did you guys hear the new shit that just dropped? We haven't talked about Star Wars in a minute anyway, and it's been a while which isn't there.
Speaker 3:The acolyte, like another word for Padawan. You know it's the Sith Lord and the acolyte would be the Padawan, yeah, to be another Sith.
Speaker 2:I think it was supposed to be Maul that survived, because Maul was supposed to take over the Underworld In the Clone Wars yeah. And then it was supposed to be.
Speaker 3:He was still supposed to be Diagonal. He was supposed to take.
Speaker 2:No, diagonal was supposed to be the Twilight League, the sex league, and then it was supposed to be Prime Luke.
Speaker 3:Come and save the day, but you're going to see like a prime Luke all the way, bro you know that's sick dog, yeah, and also cool to see the Jedi Order in, like you know, high Republic era. So I actually wish that they'd renew Act Life for season two. I think it already officially got canceled oh they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they officially got it. What do you call it? The Mandalorian and Gru, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the movie out, it's a movie, it's a movie.
Speaker 2:I thought it was a series again, if I'm not mistaken I I I have I screen recorded the trailers I meant to drop that in the group chat. Yeah, yeah, but uh, yeah, it's out there, it's out there, uh, it's, uh, it's uh, grogu, and you know a movie? Yeah, it's a movie, though. Yeah. Well, either that or they get my own series too.
Speaker 1:Big boy, he's marvel boy now yeah, he's either that or he's getting his own series.
Speaker 2:But I'm almost positive he's the same, uh, in the same building, but a different department.
Speaker 1:He's up there now he's on the same building but a different floor. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:His contract with Disney doesn't expire for another 20 years.
Speaker 2:They wrote his ass out. He's going to retire with Hugh Jackman, bro.
Speaker 3:But I want more Star Wars content. The thing is, I want people to try stuff. The acolyte was them trying some shit. I want more people to try some shit, clone Wars. Don't stick to the same thing.
Speaker 2:Try Clone Wars Trust Filoni Trust Filoni Trust Filoni Trust Filoni.
Speaker 3:But I am an advocate of letting people just try some shit.
Speaker 2:Fuck Kathy Kennedy all day. Yep, well, he said it. No, thank you, I'm good bro. I'm good bro, I'm allergic to caffeine.
Speaker 3:Come, in this fall, to a screen near you.
Speaker 2:More podcasts, that's right, ladies and gentlemen, that's right y'all, anything else?
Speaker 1:Suki, what'd you do this summer?
Speaker 2:Oh, hot damn.
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